Taylor Swift Forever & Always JOE



Taylor Swift ‘Fearless‘ album preview. ‘Forever & Always’ was written for her ex-boyfriend Joe Jonas. Thx Tiffany! 1. Fearless
2. Fifteen
3. Love Story
4. Hey Stephen
5. White Horse
6. You Belong With Me

7. Breathe
8. Tell Me Why
9. You’re Not Sorry
10. The Way I Loved You
11. Forever & Always
12. The Best Day
13. Change. Forever & Always
lyrics under the cut!

Each moment with you

Is just like a dream to me

That somehow came true, yeah

And I know tomorrow

Will still be the same

Cuz we got a life of love

That won’t ever change and

Everyday love me your own special way

Melt all my heart away with a smile

Take time to tell me you really care

And we’ll share tomorrow together

Ooh baby, I’ll always love you forever

Ever, ever, ever

There’ll always be sunshine

When I look at you

It’s something I can’t explain

Just the things that you do

If you get lonely

Call me and take

A second to give to me

That magic you make and

Ever, ever, ever

There’ll always be sunshine

When I look at you

It’s something I can’t explain

Just the things that you do

If you get lonely

Call me and take

A second to give to me

That magic you make and

  • Anonymous

    THOSE AREN’T THE LYRICS, PEOPLE!!!!

    HELLURRR?!??!

    LUTHER VANDROSS SANG THAT SONG… Apparently the person who runs ocean up doesn’t know either.

    Stupid people

  • lauren

    “i seriously hate taylor swift. shes a bitch & a hoe. she totally used jb to boost her popularity. and seriously, she is trying to make people feel sorry for her about the whole “jaylor” shit. first of all, they only dated for like what, four months? she shouldnt be that freaking upset. GET OVER IT AND MOVE ON BITCH. mad people are like oh, joe is the jerk here, he broke up with her over the phone. UHM SO WHAT? the jonas brothers schedule is SO busy, and you guys all know that. how could they possibly have found time to brake up in person? so seriously, give joe a break. hes amazing & i love him. hes WAY too good for her. she 18 almost 19 years old and posting that video about “braking up with other dolls” so so freaking immature. she needs to GROW UP. even miley, wouldnt stoop that low. i mean, miley & nick dated for two years! and you wanna know what pisses me off the most? when taylor swift or anyone else is mad, its perfectly fine. but when miley cyrus is mad, shes a bitch? you guys seriously are messed up, just like tswift.”
    —————
    its fine if you dont like her cause thats your own opinion but dont you dare call her a hoe or a bitch cause shes far from that i may not know her on a personal level but everytime shes in interviews or at meet and greets she is nothing but nice.and she did NOT use JB cause she was already way more famous then them and for way longer hmm hasnt she sold more records? and as much as i love jb its true. she didnt and doesnt need them because shes already has soooo many devoted fans and shes already positivly popular therefore she definetly didnt need them. and she is not trying to make people feel sorry for her shes doing the same damn thing shes done since shes been famous, being honest and writing songs about things that have happended and things that have mattered to her so please tell me how shes trying to make people feel sorry for her. i honestly dont think she gives a flying fuck because i defintly wouldnt if someone broke up with me in 25 seconds over the phone. just saying. and how the hell do you know how long they dated joe and kevin and nick are all very personal people they keep their lives very private and usually when people find out about their relationshios theyve already been dating for awhile so we dont really know how long their relationship was. plus no matter how long you date someone if you like them enough its gonna hurt when they break up with you. and not everyone thinks joes a jerk, i surely dont he broke up with her shit happens and if you dont like people calling joe a jerk for breaking up with her you shouldnt call her a bitch for being hurt about it dont you think thats a double standard.. cause it is. and miley did stoop that low if ya wanna be honest she basically called nick out in her video had dog tag and everything and still saying she hates him unlike miley taylors been calling out ex boyfriends since shes started miley just randomly calls out nick and i know shes hurt and thats fine. and the reason why people called miley a bitch is because miley randomly called nick out she didnt open up about any other boyfriend and she didnt go on calling them jerks or anything like that but with nick she wanted to call him out talking about highlights and shit … but anyway your doing the same thing to taylor what people did to miley so you cant complain
    ps i love jb and miley im just pointing out the facts

  • B

    OHMYGOD. you know her and you never told anyone????
    OMFG!

  • Yes she did, she said in an interview w/Ryan Seacreast that they did an emergency song recording for the album.

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  • Sonia.Loves.JOE.JONAS.

    yup i totally agree!!

    i HATE TAYLOR!!!

    JOE IS JUST AMAZING AND I WILL ALWAYS LOVE HIM!!

  • GENELLE

    dude, that’s like a Luther Vandross song. LOL. that isn’t taylor swifts lyrics.

  • bad wolf

    Who’re you tryin’ to kid? Those are the lyrics to Heatwave’s 1970’s megahit, “Always and Forever.” Try again. Ya gotta do better than that.

  • Kayy

    Wow. Too bad those aren’t even the correct lyrics. Nice try though.

    Come one people, think of Taylor and Joe as normal people (which the are) and how would you feel? You really really like someone, and they randomly call you and break up with you in 27 seconds? Wouldn’t you be hurt? Yes you would, if not then you have never really liked someone, and you are probably 10 years old and shouldn’t be on this site anyways. BE RESPECTFUL!

  • Anonymous

    She has more than one song like that. The point doesn’t get any clearer than saying “you should break up with him for me.” She encourages it and is then, somehow, shocked that it happens to her? It’s a double standard to try to claim that when she says something like that it’s because she’s the nice best friend who “deserves” him and gets overlooked, but when she’s the girlfriend, the other girl is bad news and the guy is just a jerk. I had a hard time picturing Taylor Swift as Cinderella in sneakers to begin with. With those clothes and just generally the way she is, that’s bordering on farce.

    I’m not saying she should force herself to do anything, but I don’t think it’s fair for people to say that she’s the victim when she has wished for the same thing to happen with someone else. Karma much?
    ——-

    well for one she may not be the girl in those songs and two she isn’t always telling the guy to leave her just that she’d rather have him, not the other girl. and its not like she has played up this ‘other woman’ thing at all. she hasn’t even talked about it. thats just the description of the song; she hasn’t turned it into this terrible thing, just something that happened.

  • bad wolf

    Those are the lyrics to “Always and Forever” by Heatwave in the 1970’s. Who are you trying to kid?

  • Nicole

    not all her songs are about personal experiences. she gets inspiration from different things.

    —-

    But Love Story was about a real person, and she has had a lot of crushes and “loves” over the years.

    It’s funny, I think, that you’re all sympathizing with her because Joe supposedly left her for another girl when she has written at least two songs (to my knowledge) about how a guy should leave his mean/possessive girlfriend who doesn’t deserve him for her. Apparently, she isn’t so fond of being the possessive girlfriend who gets dumped. Who’s to say that this mystery girl (if she does exist) wasn’t singing “You Belong With Me” the whole time they were dating? Why is she automatically a whore and Joe a jerk when TAYLOR isn’t considered a whore and the guy she liked would have never been considered a jerk if he left his girlfriend for her? Who’s to say that Joe doesn’t really love this (possibly imaginary) woman and that she isn’t “the one”? Would you still blame him if she moves on and he MARRIES this woman? He’s allowed to follow his heart, even if it doesn’t lead him to TSwift. Give him a break.

    Like I said before, that 27 second phone call could be a sign that he was afraid and not that he’s a jerk. Not everyone is brave enough to handle ten minutes of Taylor Swift break-up time.

  • Anonymous

    She should be more respectful of Joe. Some things should remain private. It’s not right to let the world in on your or anyone else’s personal life!!!

  • Anonymous

    WOWW I LOVED JOE BUT NOW… WOW I DON`T KNOW WHAT TO THINK… BUT I DONT EVEN KNOWN TAYLOR TILL SHE DATE WITH JOE SO..

  • Anonymous

    WRONG LYRICS!!!!!!

  • Anonymous

    those weren’t the lyrics!!!!!

    what the fuck oceanup

    anyway, go taylor and joe!! im sure ull get back together again.. haha

  • Nicole

    NOTE: I know “You Belong With Me” isn’t a true story, but she obviously sympathizes with the “other woman”… unless it isn’t her. There’s a clear double standard going on.

  • Yvonne

    I am begging Kevin and Nick to be embroiled in a scandel ASAP so we can all move on from this Jaylor drama.

  • Sara

    okay, that is like my favorite song ever.
    but it’s by Heatwave if I remember correctly, not Taylor Swift.

  • Anonymous

    she did right this about him.
    she een saidit was about him.
    it was a last minute addition.
    RIGHT after they broke up.
    god.

  • Anonymous

    bitch.
    you dont know shit.
    taylor is BETTER than joe ever will be.
    he’s an asshole who cheats.
    just like any other guy in this world.

  • Brookelle

    TAYLOR SWIFT IS A DUMBASS, Get Over Joe, He’s Mine Hoe.
    -.-

  • Anonymous

    not all her songs are about personal experiences. she gets inspiration from different things.

    —-

    But Love Story was about a real person, and she has had a lot of crushes and “loves” over the years.

    It’s funny, I think, that you’re all sympathizing with her because Joe supposedly left her for another girl when she has written at least two songs (to my knowledge) about how a guy should leave his mean/possessive girlfriend who doesn’t deserve him for her. Apparently, she isn’t so fond of being the possessive girlfriend who gets dumped. Who’s to say that this mystery girl (if she does exist) wasn’t singing “You Belong With Me” the whole time they were dating? Why is she automatically a whore and Joe a jerk when TAYLOR isn’t considered a whore and the guy she liked would have never been considered a jerk if he left his girlfriend for her? Who’s to say that Joe doesn’t really love this (possibly imaginary) woman and that she isn’t “the one”? Would you still blame him if she moves on and he MARRIES this woman? He’s allowed to follow his heart, even if it doesn’t lead him to TSwift. Give him a break.

    Like I said before, that 27 second phone call could be a sign that he was afraid and not that he’s a jerk. Not everyone is brave enough to handle ten minutes of Taylor Swift break-up time.
    ———-

    just because you have had crushes doesn’t mean you have been in a million relationships. two different things. and love story was losely based on a guy. she made up most of the story herself, loosely based on him.

    and i get your going to make excuses for joe all day so i’m not even going to touch that. i dont care enough. regardless of the excuses, he pulled a jerk move. people sympathize because a lot of the time it has happened to them and they can relate.

    ps. i didnt say joe was a jerk, just that he pulled a jerk move. whatever, that just makes him like his other male counterparts. typical.

  • Anonymous

    i love how people are like “she is using joe for publicity” umm who was jb doing concerts with and bringing to release parties right before their album came out? All the jaylor rumors started right before their cd dropped. If anyone was using anyone for publicity it was them using taylor.(Gasp, Taylor has sold more records then JB) Fearless was originally only suppose to be 11 songs but then Taylor decided there weren’t enough break up songs and boosted it up to 13 at the last second. Forever and always is about joe and everyone who says taylor shouldn’t say how she feels, she has named dropped in all of her songs before, why should joe be different? As far as i’m concerned he knew what he was getting into…

  • Anonymous

    NOTE: I know “You Belong With Me” isn’t a true story, but she obviously sympathizes with the “other woman”… unless it isn’t her. There’s a clear double standard going on.

    why would she sympathize for the other woman in her own relationship. there is more surrounding the meaning of that song then your making it.

  • Anonymous

    http://www.people.com/people/gallery/0,,20238798,00.html
    haha this is funny

  • LO MOOOOONEY!

    Most of you people are dumb.

    1, THAT IS ABOUT JOE. Don’t beleive me? Go to Ryan Seacrest’s website and listen to her interview. She says it straight out that “Forever and Always” is about Joe. Personally, I think it’s pretty catchy for the 10 seconds I heard of it.

    2, She is not using Joe, Nick and Kevin to boost her fame. I’m pretty damn sure that they both are incredibly huge music acts.

    3, And none of you know the specific amount of time they were dating so don’t judge. And who cares, everyone knows that now a days you can’t have a good song without the word “love” now a days.

  • Anonymous

    I have nothing against her but, almost every song is about a different guy…yeah her and Joe were really in “love”.
    What a joke, she’s just trying to ruin his image. I feel bad for both of them.
    —-

    not all her songs are exact personal experiences. she gets inspired by other peoples lives or what she wishes certain things would be like. they’re not all about different guys.

  • TeamDemi

    those are obviously the wrong lyrics even if ya didnt know it. this is happy song. ya know taylor would’ve added some line about their relashionship ending in a mesaly 25 second! joes a jerk!!

  • Anonymous

    isnt the whole point of dating someone to find out if you like them or not?? why do people sware they were in love after dating 3 months?!?! that is so stupid. nick and miley dated 2 years.. that was llove. i think someone is over-exaggerating. and theres is no way if this was a last minute recording it would be on this album. they have the cds made like 2 months in advance.. if shes doing a bonus cd yea but i think shes using it for album promotion. and isnt she the same person who admitted to stalking ex boyfriends??? good for joe to get away from a creeper.
    —-

    for one, you have no idea how long they dated
    and two she recored the song in september so as you said thats two months in advance. shes already said it was an emergency recording session.

    the boys talk about their songs and the relationship they are from, just minus names. so they’re doing that for promotion too?

  • kayla

    so they can write songs about their relationships but she cant?

  • Nicole

    “why would she sympathize for the other woman in her own relationship. there is more surrounding the meaning of that song then your making it.”

    ——

    *headdesk* The whole point is that she’s okay with it when it’s her, but it’s terrible when it isn’t. That makes her a hypocrite whether her feelings got hurt or not. Sorry if she’s not 2000% rational like me. I don’t even get the last line. I’m talking about what people are saying about him, not the song.

    _____________________________

    “just because you have had crushes doesn’t mean you have been in a million relationships. two different things. and love story was losely based on a guy. she made up most of the story herself, loosely based on him.

    and i get your going to make excuses for joe all day so i’m not even going to touch that. i dont care enough. regardless of the excuses, he pulled a jerk move. people sympathize because a lot of the time it has happened to them and they can relate.

    ps. i didnt say joe was a jerk, just that he pulled a jerk move. whatever, that just makes him like his other male counterparts. typical.”

    —–

    I know that it was loosely based on him. Obviously, the whole thing was exaggerated (wrong word, but it’s late and I can’t think of a better one): he didn’t propose to her, etc. If he had, I probably would have fallen over dead because I was one of those people who was against their relationship in the first place. So sue me. When I say “those people,” I mean everyone. Literally, everyone. The world exploded. I’m still in denial that it ever happened.

    I don’t get how pointing out that, to this (possibly imaginary) girl, the day of that 27 second phone call may have been the greatest day in the world and that Taylor of all people should understand that is making excuses for him. If I’m making excuses, fine, but I don’t think we know enough about it to know if it was a jerk move. She thinks it was because she was the one whose heart was broken. Even the ugly stepsisters have feelings; they weren’t too pleased when Prince Charming ran off with Cinderella. It’s all about the perspective you take. Have we suddenly degraded the discussion to “all guys are jerks and all girls are fragile and sweet and get victimized by men”? (Not just you; everyone seems to be doing that.) It’s more complex than that. Just because he didn’t love her doesn’t mean he’s done anything wrong. Dating someone and not living happily ever after with them is hardly a crime.

    I was speaking generally about people calling him a jerk. I can’t escape it. They’re everywhere and have been for months. Now they have more material. Go them. -.-

  • Anonymous

    Ohmygod.

    This so proves it was all so fake…
    What kind of person/label/whatever lets a last addition to a cd like, not even a month before its release??
    Her cd comes out what? next week? and she’s only promoting it NOW? AFTER she and Joe broke up?
    Demi Lovato who used the JB’s maybe even more than Taylor was doing that much longer…
    Not saying that to defend Joe or whatever, but COME ON. She was so using him and he was so letting… No wonder he was such a jerk with her.
    —-

    i hope you know how idiotic that sounds.

  • Anonymous

    cause a stupid fan wrote those lyrics in about a minute because the song is OBV not going to be an ‘i love you song’ its going to be an ‘i hate you ‘ song, but stupid fans are faking lyrics

  • Anonymous

    I know that it was loosely based on him. Obviously, the whole thing was exaggerated (wrong word, but it’s late and I can’t think of a better one): he didn’t propose to her, etc. If he had, I probably would have fallen over dead because I was one of those people who was against their relationship in the first place. So sue me. When I say “those people,” I mean everyone. Literally, everyone. The world exploded. I’m still in denial that it ever happened.

    I don’t get how pointing out that, to this (possibly imaginary) girl, the day of that 27 second phone call may have been the greatest day in the world and that Taylor of all people should understand that is making excuses for him. If I’m making excuses, fine, but I don’t think we know enough about it to know if it was a jerk move. She thinks it was because she was the one whose heart was broken. Even the ugly stepsisters have feelings; they weren’t too pleased when Prince Charming ran off with Cinderella. It’s all about the perspective you take. Have we suddenly degraded the discussion to “all guys are jerks and all girls are fragile and sweet and get victimized by men”? (Not just you; everyone seems to be doing that.) It’s more complex than that. Just because he didn’t love her doesn’t mean he’s done anything wrong. Dating someone and not living happily ever after with them is hardly a crime.

    I was speaking generally about people calling him a jerk. I can’t escape it. They’re everywhere and have been for months. Now they have more material. Go them. -.-

    —-
    i mean, yea, im sure this girl was overjoyed that he left taylor to be with her (as homewrecker as that sounds) but it doesn’t take away from the action.

    i really don’t mind the breakup. thats going to happen and joe may have had a great reason on his end, but no matter what a 27 second phone call is never going to look any better to me. breaking up over the phone already is a bit much, but that seems to be the new thing now a days. but its like, if you ever cared about a person, it would seem, you would at least give them the time of day, even at your leave.

    i know we are only seeing it from tay’s perspective at the moment. but i do think she has a valid perspective and joe may very well have his. i think joe had his valid reasons for breaking up with her, but how he went about it was not cool. so yea, its still is a jerk move to me. nothing can make that sound better, even the scenarios people have tried to make for him. again, not that he is a jerk, i still think he is one of the better guys out there, tbh.

  • Anonymous

    I could feel bad for her, if she wasn’t being so pathetic…

    By the way, from what i got from the preview there are things like:

    Flashback to when he said forever and always

    and then

    It rains when you’re here it rains when you’re gone.

    This HAS to be the most intense 4 month HOOK UP ever, if they really felt this much.

    ——

    umm you have no idea how long they dated.

  • Anonymous

    “why would she sympathize for the other woman in her own relationship. there is more surrounding the meaning of that song then your making it.”

    ——

    *headdesk* The whole point is that she’s okay with it when it’s her, but it’s terrible when it isn’t. That makes her a hypocrite whether her feelings got hurt or not. Sorry if she’s not 2000% rational like me. I don’t even get the last line. I’m talking about what people are saying about him, not the song.
    ——-

    i don’t think you can force yourself to not be hurt that some guy broke up with you for another girl. and i think the point of the song your referencing (that makes her a hypocrite) is that a guy deserves a simple girl that cares about him as oppose to some hoochie. don’t really see that connection of how that makes her a hypocrite.

  • Anonymous

    She should be more respectful of Joe. Some things should remain private. It’s not right to let the world in on your or anyone else’s personal life!!!
    —–

    taylor talks about her relationships the same way she always has. it was never a problem before. she always has said she will treat her fans like friends, so she has no problem being open about her life with her friends. i dont think she really minds that the fans of her ex have their undies in a bunch because of it. even though i am a fan of the boys, taylors boss so whatever.

  • Anonymous

    i love how people are like “she is using joe for publicity” umm who was jb doing concerts with and bringing to release parties right before their album came out? All the jaylor rumors started right before their cd dropped. If anyone was using anyone for publicity it was them using taylor.(Gasp, Taylor has sold more records then JB) Fearless was originally only suppose to be 11 songs but then Taylor decided there weren’t enough break up songs and boosted it up to 13 at the last second. Forever and always is about joe and everyone who says taylor shouldn’t say how she feels, she has named dropped in all of her songs before, why should joe be different? As far as i’m concerned he knew what he was getting into…

    —-

    that was utter perfection.

  • Anonymous

    She should be more respectful of Joe. Some things should remain private. It’s not right to let the world in on your or anyone else’s personal life!!!

    —-

    why should be respectful to joe when im sure she does not think he was respectful to her. talking about her relationships doesnt mean she doesnt respect him. she just has no obligation to do what he wants anymore.

  • Nicole

    I honestly just think he was nervous (that probably is an excuse XD). He’s not the most articulate person in the world to begin with… or tactful. Half of that twenty-seven seconds was probably awkward pausing. “Uh, hey… It’s… like… um… I’m sort of like… I think we should like… not be… like, together anymore. I kind of like (insert name here) and like… Yeah. Sorry. I gotta go. I left my house… on fire…. Bye.” *click*

    I don’t think it was as harsh as people imagine it to be. “Oh hey, Joe! It’s so good to talk to you.” “The feeling is not mutual. I do not regret to inform you that I must, hereby, terminate our relationship. I have met another lady friend, and she is by far the superior human being, physically and in every way imaginable. Please do not reply as I am not going to change my mind. I must also request that we cease all further contact as you are insane. Good day.” “But…” “I SAID GOOD DAY.” *click*

    I had way too much fun writing those.

  • angelaJONAS

    i seriously hate taylor swift. shes a bitch & a hoe. she totally used jb to boost her popularity. and seriously, she is trying to make people feel sorry for her about the whole “jaylor” shit. first of all, they only dated for like what, four months? she shouldnt be that freaking upset. GET OVER IT AND MOVE ON BITCH. mad people are like oh, joe is the jerk here, he broke up with her over the phone. UHM SO WHAT? the jonas brothers schedule is SO busy, and you guys all know that. how could they possibly have found time to brake up in person? so seriously, give joe a break. hes amazing & i love him. hes WAY too good for her. she 18 almost 19 years old and posting that video about “braking up with other dolls” so so freaking immature. she needs to GROW UP. even miley, wouldnt stoop that low. i mean, miley & nick dated for two years! and you wanna know what pisses me off the most? when taylor swift or anyone else is mad, its perfectly fine. but when miley cyrus is mad, shes a bitch? you guys seriously are messed up, just like tswift.

  • Nicole

    i don’t think you can force yourself to not be hurt that some guy broke up with you for another girl. and i think the point of the song your referencing (that makes her a hypocrite) is that a guy deserves a simple girl that cares about him as oppose to some hoochie. don’t really see that connection of how that makes her a hypocrite.

    —–

    She has more than one song like that. The point doesn’t get any clearer than saying “you should break up with him for me.” She encourages it and is then, somehow, shocked that it happens to her? It’s a double standard to try to claim that when she says something like that it’s because she’s the nice best friend who “deserves” him and gets overlooked, but when she’s the girlfriend, the other girl is bad news and the guy is just a jerk. I had a hard time picturing Taylor Swift as Cinderella in sneakers to begin with. With those clothes and just generally the way she is, that’s bordering on farce.

    I’m not saying she should force herself to do anything, but I don’t think it’s fair for people to say that she’s the victim when she has wished for the same thing to happen with someone else. Karma much?

  • Kasey

    Joe is a pig if he broke up with her over the phone .. and hes supposed to be a gentlemen?
    B.S I knew when I met him he was a jerk

    I love Taylor music

    this coming from a girl who Met JB befor they were famous they deff need to go back to 06 an remember when they were better

  • teighlor

    CHEESIEST DAMN SONG I’VE EVER HEARD!

    I’ve written much better songs about Joe (:

  • Anonymous

    THOSE ARE NOT THE LYRICS FYIIIIII

  • Anonymous

    beautiful songs.I like her voice.Aniway I guess she is too exaggerated about Joe…xDDD

  • lauren

    no one knows how long they dated so sotp saying the couldnt have been in love
    for all you know they could have been dating for over a year

  • Anonymous

    i seriously hate taylor swift. shes a bitch & a hoe. she totally used jb to boost her popularity. and seriously, she is trying to make people feel sorry for her about the whole “jaylor” shit. first of all, they only dated for like what, four months? she shouldnt be that freaking upset. GET OVER IT AND MOVE ON BITCH. mad people are like oh, joe is the jerk here, he broke up with her over the phone. UHM SO WHAT? the jonas brothers schedule is SO busy, and you guys all know that. how could they possibly have found time to brake up in person? so seriously, give joe a break. hes amazing & i love him. hes WAY too good for her. she 18 almost 19 years old and posting that video about “braking up with other dolls” so so freaking immature. she needs to GROW UP. even miley, wouldnt stoop that low. i mean, miley & nick dated for two years! and you wanna know what pisses me off the most? when taylor swift or anyone else is mad, its perfectly fine. but when miley cyrus is mad, shes a bitch? you guys seriously are messed up, just like tswift.

    —–

    umm im pretty sure the boys asked her to be in THEIR movie. who’s looking to boost whos fame. c’mon now

    shes not looking for any sympathy. she has talked about her relationship twice, once on the radio and then on ellen and both times it was other people who brought it up. the media has spun it out of control.

    your just pissed that some fans look at joe a little differently. that is not her fault at all. she talked about her relationship like she has always done. it wasn’t a big deal before, why now?

    everyones going to have to get off joes jock and realize he has an ex girlfriend and she has always been open about relationships. he knew that getting into it with her.

  • sj

    “i seriously hate taylor swift. shes a bitch & a hoe. she totally used jb to boost her popularity. and seriously, she is trying to make people feel sorry for her about the whole “jaylor” shit. first of all, they only dated for like what, four months? she shouldnt be that freaking upset. GET OVER IT AND MOVE ON BITCH. mad people are like oh, joe is the jerk here, he broke up with her over the phone. UHM SO WHAT? the jonas brothers schedule is SO busy, and you guys all know that. how could they possibly have found time to brake up in person? so seriously, give joe a break. hes amazing & i love him. hes WAY too good for her. she 18 almost 19 years old and posting that video about “braking up with other dolls” so so freaking immature. she needs to GROW UP. even miley, wouldnt stoop that low. i mean, miley & nick dated for two years! and you wanna know what pisses me off the most? when taylor swift or anyone else is mad, its perfectly fine. but when miley cyrus is mad, shes a bitch? you guys seriously are messed up, just like tswift.”
    ————————————-

    WTH
    IS EVERYONE RETARDED?
    THIS SONG IS NOT ABOUT JOE! godd
    it was probably a song she omitted from the record and thenn decided to include it.and to the perosn who wrote the retarded note above…

    YOU’RE A STUPID HOE not taylor.
    shes actualli a very ncie person andvery humble
    and she didn use JB to boost her fame RETARD! she was already WAY MORE FAMOUS THEN THEM BEFORE. joe even said himself before that she’s sold like DOUBLE THE AMOUNT OF RECORDS THAT JB HAS SOLD!
    don’t get me worng i LOVE the jonas brothers. actualli AM one of those OBSESSIVE FANS. but i’m not ghey like you, who hates all of JB’s girlfriends cause your jelous of them.
    sure maybe taylor cudve handled it a little more maturely but we dont know what went on between them. maybe joe desevres it? or maybe he dusnt. YOU’LL NEVER KNOW. WE UNDERSTAND THEY’RE BUSY BUT HE COULD’VE AT LEAST TAKE more time to break up with her over the phone! i’m PRETTY SHURE he’s not SO busy he can’t take a full 5-10 minutes of his time to break up with his GIRLFRIEND!
    and wth i dont get it. so JB’s manager wants them tostay single for their career. but thats RETARDED. So does that mean they’ll never get married and have a family?
    like i said . i AM one of those JB fans that is TOTLALLY OBSESSEDA AND GOES ON OCEANUP ..AND ETC EVERYDAY TO SEE FI THERES ANY JB NEWS. but i have to admit that Joe is lucky to be dating Taylor. she’s an amazing singer and person, and he ‘shud’ve thought before he let it all go.’

  • Danielle

    OCEAN UP! that song is not forever&always by taylor swift, its always and forever by a differnent artist!

  • Anonymous

    WTF GUYSS
    R U ALLR ETARDED
    THE SONG IS OBVIUSLY NOTTTT ABOUT JOE JONAS!!!
    look at the damn lyrics
    and it was probably a song that was omitted form the record before but she added it on at the last minute.

  • Sneha

    Shit.
    Joe you damn heartbreaker.
    Your sexy douche of a damn heartbreaker.

    Anyways, this doesnt make me hate Joe
    it makes me even more aware that hes just guy.
    Even though im still pretty sure their relationship was a summer fling…..

    Taylor is cool though, i think im gonna buy her cd. I LOVE Love story and hey stephen.
    I feel like shes one of the only female artists really open to love.

    But still: Team Jonas 4 lifeee.

  • CloStar

    I like joe really! but…
    I did like what he did to Taylor! she’s an awesome GIRL!

    why he did this!

    ahhh

  • Anonymous

    dude, taylor is famous in her own right

  • Emilie

    I think it’s great that Taylor was able to make a beautiful song out of such an experience, she’s awesome!
    I love JB, but the whole break-up-over-the-phone-in-20-seconds thing was lame.

  • Anonymous

    those arent the lyrics to the song…

  • tonya anne

    WRONG LYRICS!!!
    i love taylor <3

  • kaitlynn

    wow, i love taylor :)

  • Nicole

    I have nothing against her but, almost every song is about a different guy…yeah her and Joe were really in “love”.
    What a joke, she’s just trying to ruin his image. I feel bad for both of them.

    —–

    Lol, yeah. She was in “love” with her “Romeo” too. Then, ten seconds later, it was, “OMG! HAI, THAR’S JOE JONAS. UH, G2G. I L VIRGINS NOW!” Too bad for her because he’s pretty much the coolest guy ever, and he makes better music than she ever will.

    They didn’t date for a year. They dated for three months. GET OVER IT. She falls in “love” with everyone.

    I’m glad to hear those weren’t the lyrics though because I heard they were, and I was like, ‘This girl gets crazier all the time. XD’

  • mireenajonas

    People are so stupid! So Taylor wrote a song about Joe, that doesn’t automaticly mean they were INLOVE. They liked eachother, big deal. They’re teenagers, everyone likes someone in their life time.

    Retards, god -.-

  • http://www.myspace.com/chrissysavers Shania

    Wow, Joe Isn’t really good at relationships. XD

  • Sneha

    umm im pretty sure the boys asked her to be in THEIR movie. who’s looking to boost whos fame. c’mon now

    shes not looking for any sympathy. she has talked about her relationship twice, once on the radio and then on ellen and both times it was other people who brought it up. the media has spun it out of control.

    your just pissed that some fans look at joe a little differently. that is not her fault at all. she talked about her relationship like she has always done. it wasn’t a big deal before, why now?

    everyones going to have to get off joes jock and realize he has an ex girlfriend and she has always been open about relationships. he knew that getting into it with her.
    ————-

    I agree with you. Taylor has everyright to talk about her and Joe, and put her feelings into her music, because well nearly every artist does, including JB (except the talking part haha).

    But i dont think JB were trying to boost their fame by having Taylor in their movie.
    They included every one who supported them and helped them out during the tour, it was pure fun.
    Besides Taylor didnt have to say yes to it.

  • Anonymous

    OMGG….i am soo excited for the album release!!

  • Laina

    GASP!

  • ellie

    that is not her lyrics thats an old song…

  • Emma :)

    i HATE taylor swift >:( >:( >:(
    it was sooooooo obvious they only ‘dated’ for publicity!!!!

    LOVE YOU JOE!!!
    DON’T LISTEN TO WHAT THAT BITCH SAYS!!!
    YOU’RE AWESOME!!!!!
    ?????

    Peace.Love&Jonas.?

  • hayley

    that really IS a last minute addition to the album
    the lyrics sound like she wrote them in a minute
    XP lameeeeeeee

  • Sasha

    how was this written for him if she just broke up with him???
    she didn’t just write a song and add it to the c-d that just came out. c’mon people!!

  • Anonymous

    first?

  • julie

    aww´..
    taylor really loved Joe!

  • http://x x

    Love her.

  • Gerald from Venezuela

    This song is cute!
    I love Taylor! <3
    Is such a good singer!.
    Iove your page. Im always waching it! :)
    Congratulationss!
    Keep going like this! ;)

  • sdfsdfs

    those are NOT the lyrics
    you would know if you listened to the preview video you posted

  • Nicole

    well for one she may not be the girl in those songs and two she isn’t always telling the guy to leave her just that she’d rather have him, not the other girl. and its not like she has played up this ‘other woman’ thing at all. she hasn’t even talked about it. thats just the description of the song; she hasn’t turned it into this terrible thing, just something that happened.

    —-

    Lol, bullshit. Who’s making excuses now? You can’t romanticize something and denounce it in the same breath. She could have been a complete bitch to him. You all have no idea, but because she’s the one whose story we know and because she’s the GIRL, automatically, she’s right.

  • Anonymous

    Those aren’t the lyrics

    I am so excited for this album!

  • Cami

    Oceanup, those aren’t the right lyrics…
    Anyway, love Taylor! =]

  • Kanoa

    thats so sweet:D

  • SSM

    Didn’t she say this song was about how a guy she was in a relationship with that was fading and it’s about the frustration about not knowing what went wrong?

    Doesn’t seem like it to me…

  • alexis

    I love Taylor Swfit and her music, but she has been frustrating me lately. Heartbreak sucks, it really does, but I think she doesn’t truly know what love is. In almost every single song she writes she claims that she “loves” someone, or a boy broke her heart. I know it’s a really hard thing, but she needs to try and keep it a little more to herself. I personally think she is happy that Joe is so famous, because it is easier to ruin someone’s reputation when they’re more known.

  • FIRST

  • tiff

    taylor talks about her relationships the same way she always has. it was never a problem before. she always has said she will treat her fans like friends, so she has no problem being open about her life with her friends. i dont think she really minds that the fans of her ex have their undies in a bunch because of it. even though i am a fan of the boys, taylors boss so whatever.
    ————

    thank you thank you thank you
    thats exactly how i feel its like i love joe but why should taylor treat this relationship/breakup any different then her others because hes more famous? no. shes doing what she done since she first came out writing and releasing personal songs that have meaning to her and opening up to her fans because she wants to be as honest with us as possible i have no idea why everyone is saying bad things about her cause shes done nothing wrong joe knew what he was getting himself into and taylor has been very open in the past so why should she change now taylor is real shes not gonna change herself because someones management wants to keep good publicity thats rediculous

  • Lili

    FIRST!?

  • fdfsdfds

    those are NOT the lyrics
    you would know if you listened to the preview video you posted

  • marisa

    um i am a massive jonas brothers fan but don’t go hating on taylor swift a real fan would not hate her because she went out with one of them and i bet if u were going out with joe jonas and he broke up with you over a 30sec. phone call u would be a little heart broken to and i am not saying i dont like the jonas brothers because i love them with all my life and i am a huge fan

  • lachuuJB

    its really gud cant wait for her album

  • Anonymous

    well for one she may not be the girl in those songs and two she isn’t always telling the guy to leave her just that she’d rather have him, not the other girl. and its not like she has played up this ‘other woman’ thing at all. she hasn’t even talked about it. thats just the description of the song; she hasn’t turned it into this terrible thing, just something that happened.

    —-

    Lol, bullshit. Who’s making excuses now? You can’t romanticize something and denounce it in the same breath. She could have been a complete bitch to him. You all have no idea, but because she’s the one whose story we know and because she’s the GIRL, automatically, she’s right.
    —–

    yea but thats the thing, she has never denounced it. she hasn’t even spoken about it. thats just the description of her song. all she said was that, that was what happened.

  • Lala

    I have nothing against her but, almost every song is about a different guy…yeah her and Joe were really in “love”.
    What a joke, she’s just trying to ruin his image. I feel bad for both of them.

  • xoxo

    actually – she said herself that she added it as a little emergency.
    it’s just these aren’t the lyrics.

  • Anonymous

    The song is not about Joe at all. It’s been on the album the whole time. “Someone’s” just trying to sell records!!!!

  • shaunae

    i dont think those are the right lyrics because it doesnt even have what the preview said in it!

  • marisa

    she says on somthing i cant remeber what but i am 110% percent positive she says she wrote it quickly and recorded it right away and it got on the cd

  • kelsey

    Um, it’s quite clear that it’s about Joe Jonas, she has said it a couple of times.

  • Anonymous

    those ARE NOT the correct lyrics.

    just saying.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvHVI-znxNk

    THERE IS THE PREVIEW FOR FOREVER AND ALWAYS,
    and those lyrics you have are no where to be found (:

  • swiftsupporter<3

    noo way is this forever and always.
    It’s you belong to me..
    Taylor swift strikes a miley!
    revenge bby!
    The jonas brothers are all just players unfortunaslly,they’re so dang hott.

  • harvey

    Forever and Always – you were only going out a few months. He went out with his other girlfriends longer than that!!!! Used to like you Taylor but this is now looking more and more like a album promotion.

  • Anonymous

    THOSE ARE NOOOOOOOOOOOOT THE LYRICS!

    and yes this song IS about her and joe, she said so in her interview with ryan seacrest, go watch it…

    she did a last minute recording when they broke up and her label let her put it on her upcoming album

  • Anonymous

    These are the lyrics to an old song
    If this is right it’s a remake

    Check your stuff ocean up before you post!!!

  • Anonymous

    Taylor!!!!!
    and for people who don;t know: she said in an interview that she did an emergency recording of Forever and Always because she had just written it

    teenies,get over it,Joe is a jerk

  • krizia

    5:01 is the song

  • juliaa

    she even said she did – interview

  • Maria

    Ok I have a question for you all.

    If you were dating Joe Jonas and he wanted to break up with you and he was in Europe would you want him to fly back and you be happy to see him and be like “Oh my god, baby! I love you!” and then have him break up with you. Or would you rather hear it on the phone so it isn’t twenty times as hard?

    I don’t know about you but I would want the phone. I’ve had it to my face and it’s horrible. I’ve actually had worse than a guy just wanting to break up with me. The fact is he didn’t want to break up with me, but he did want to date another girl. Luckily for me that relationship didn’t last to long and I kind of got him back. Yay for long posts.

    And from what I can gather, Joe and Taylor were only dating for a few months. And JB did not used Taylor to boost their popularity. Their CD was already on the summer’s hot list before she came into the scene.

    And Joe is an asshole for being so quick about it. It seems like he didn’t even give a real reason with it that long (or short). For all any of us know, he has called her back to really talk about the problems.

    And my final thing to say is that I’ve heard from a different source that Joe did leave Taylor for another girl. He used to like someone before the summer and then Taylor came into the picture. It just seems he never really forgot about her. Maybe he’s trying to get back to her. Who knows.

    And that’s all I have to say…

  • Anonymous

    how was this written for him if she just broke up with him???
    she didn’t just write a song and add it to the c-d that just came out. c’mon people!!


    actually she DID. she even said so on her interview with ryan seacrest, the song was a last minute addition to the album and she wrote it about joe.

  • m.

    in case this wasn’t said enough…

    WRONG LYRICS.

  • Meghan

    I hate Taylor Swift. Like, Joe’s no angel. I heard he but a girl through hell once and that’s not right. But Taylor is like…using HIS and his brothers’ fame to boost her’s. I honestly think it was all a publicity stunt. And I don’t know them but I think he just seems like a player and thinks he can get any girl he want’s so he’s just going to try and see how many he can have. And this sounds like I’m dissing Joe more than Taylor but it’s all Taylor’s fault. I read somewhere that he was cheating on this one girl for Taylor. That’s not right. Maybe Taylor should stop being a man stealer. That’s my rant…not much of one but I’ll think of something better someday.

    PS. Oceanup your site is being retarded. If the post gets to 100+ comments the one’s after a certain number disappear as well as the comment box. Maybe you should check that out. Thanks =)

  • Anonymous

    If you were dating Joe Jonas and he wanted to break up with you and he was in Europe would you want him to fly back and you be happy to see him and be like “Oh my god, baby! I love you!” and then have him break up with you. Or would you rather hear it on the phone so it isn’t twenty times as hard?
    —-

    well in general i just think a phone breakup is quite tacky and pathetic. if you going to leave me, don’t hide behind a phone to do it. ha. but yea the problem is joe wasn’t in europe sooo. yeaa.

  • Anonymous

    lol. those aren’t the lyrics?

  • Anonymous

    these lyrics aren’t taylor swift lyrics
    there this other guys lyrics
    its also called always and forever
    google these lyrics
    and you’ll see

  • http://www.flickr.com/counciljonas Nik

    Yeah… so… umm….

    WHO GIVES A FUCKING SHIT!!

  • Anonymous

    Those arent the lyrics. That songs from another decade.

  • jblover611

    guys…STOP FREAKING OUT ABOUT THIS!!!! PLEASE!!!! Joe AND Taylor r BOTH good people, just not that compatible i guess, so STOP hating!!!! xP

  • Anonymous

    Lol, yeah. She was in “love” with her “Romeo” too. Then, ten seconds later, it was, “OMG! HAI, THAR’S JOE JONAS. UH, G2G. I L VIRGINS NOW!” Too bad for her because he’s pretty much the coolest guy ever, and he makes better music than she ever will.

    They didn’t date for a year. They dated for three months. GET OVER IT. She falls in “love” with everyone.

    I’m glad to hear those weren’t the lyrics though because I heard they were, and I was like, ‘This girl gets crazier all the time. XD’
    —-

    not all her songs are about personal experiences. she gets inspiration from different things.

  • rocksii

    OCEANUP you got the WRONG lyrics (:

    & joe is such a jerk..
    i mean i love the JB BUT
    he’s still a jerk.. that’s why
    kevin & nick are my favoorite (:
    i always thought joe was not
    a gentleman and damn i was right (:

    TAYLOOR i?youuuuu! (:

  • Anonymous

    isnt the whole point of dating someone to find out if you like them or not?? why do people sware they were in love after dating 3 months?!?! that is so stupid. nick and miley dated 2 years.. that was llove. i think someone is over-exaggerating. and theres is no way if this was a last minute recording it would be on this album. they have the cds made like 2 months in advance.. if shes doing a bonus cd yea but i think shes using it for album promotion. and isnt she the same person who admitted to stalking ex boyfriends??? good for joe to get away from a creeper.

  • Natalie

    I like Taylor.

  • Anonymous

    isnt the whole point of dating someone to find out if you like them or not?? why do people sware they were in love after dating 3 months?!?! that is so stupid. nick and miley dated 2 years.. that was llove. i think someone is over-exaggerating. and theres is no way if this was a last minute recording it would be on this album. they have the cds made like 2 months in advance.. if shes doing a bonus cd yea but i think shes using it for album promotion. and isnt she the same person who admitted to stalking ex boyfriends??? good for joe to get away from a creeper.

  • Ninaaa

    bahahaha those are not the lyrics.

    Those are the lyrics to “Always and Forever” by Heatwave.

    Good song.

    As for Joe and Taylor, I couldn’t care less. I respect their privacy.
    However, I can see that Taylor is not.

  • taylorfan

    i love taylor swift, can’t wait for the new album!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Anonymous

    The point is… She’s just saying it’s about Joe to sell more records people!!!! It’s a song she had already written.

  • kayla

    aw.
    joe’s an asshole.
    he told her forever and always and he dumped her.

    sdfkljdsklfjdsf.
    they had to of been dating longer than 6 or 7 months for him to say “forever and always”

    dickfacefatfucker.

  • ursela

    i hate her too!!!

    i dont get what is so special about her

  • Belle

    Ohmygod.

    This so proves it was all so fake…
    What kind of person/label/whatever lets a last addition to a cd like, not even a month before its release??
    Her cd comes out what? next week? and she’s only promoting it NOW? AFTER she and Joe broke up?
    Demi Lovato who used the JB’s maybe even more than Taylor was doing that much longer…
    Not saying that to defend Joe or whatever, but COME ON. She was so using him and he was so letting… No wonder he was such a jerk with her.

  • Alyson

    not her lyrics!
    and it’s FUCKING RIDICULOUS
    that people are suddenly hating on her
    because she dated JOE JONAS
    honestly!!!

  • B

    I could feel bad for her, if she wasn’t being so pathetic…

    By the way, from what i got from the preview there are things like:

    Flashback to when he said forever and always

    and then

    It rains when you’re here it rains when you’re gone.

    This HAS to be the most intense 4 month HOOK UP ever, if they really felt this much.

  • Anonymous

    Oh my god. You people SERIOUSLY need to get a life. First of all, Taylor was VERY popular even before she met the Jonas Brothers. She’s even more popular than them! You don’t see any of thier songs on the top songs theese days. (I love them, I’m just sayin’.) Second of all, she isn’t trashing Joe. She’d say that about any boy who broke her heart. It’s natrual when it comes to her. Song writting is a way for her to vent. Whether she’s angry or not. And you people need to stop judging!
    None of us know if Joe still really loves her or not. What reasons he broke up with her too. But you gotta stop trashing her just cuz she’s opening up about it. It’s over, it dosen’t really make a difference. Miley did the SAME THING! None of you where bitchin’ about it!
    They DIDN’T DATE JUST TO BOOST HER POPULARITY! SHE’S HOSTING THE CMA’S FOR HEAVENS SAKE! IF YOU THINK SHE’S THAT UNPOPULAR YOU NEED TO WAKE UP OR GET OUTTA YOUR CAVE! SHE’S A WELL KNOWN ARTIST AND VERY TALENTED!

  • Jessy

    i love joe&taylor
    and i think they stay so asd,about the broken romance..

    and,taylor is free,for write songs for joe..

    i love 2 and
    i apoinment too.

  • vanessa

    this song is about joe !
    she said it on KIISFM (heres the link go listen to it)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8N3f-IxTx2g&feature=related

    she also says that this song wasnt part of the album but she did an emergancy recording last minute for the album and it talks about how she feels
    watch the ellen show which premiers november 11, dont miss it she talks openly about daiting joe jonas!

    Im a big fan of Joe jonas and taylor swift !
    ya joe did mess up an acted like a jerk but everyone makes mistakes but wat matters most is learning from them!!
    Taylor is strong and she’ll be fine in time!!!

  • Anonymous

    That’s actually not the right lyrics. If you go to walmart and listen to the preview of Forever & Always, none of those lyrics you have there are in it…

  • Celine

    WRONG LYRICS OCEANUP!

  • kayla

    yeah right you fucking retard.
    she wouldnt do that.