Selena Gomez DONE WITH TELEVISION After Wizards?

mary kate and ashley

raven has 43 nom and 23 awards

wow
excellent observation and very well said
i agree

Exactly.

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thanks =) happy someone agrees with me

In replies to everyone saying that she'd be forgotten without Disney / That her love life is the only thing keeping her famous / Whatever other thing along those lines that I saw in the comments:
There is a difference between a celebrity and a respected artist. Selena's goal is to be an actress, not a celebrity. (That being said, I don't think she's saying she's "Good enough"...it's just her goal. We all have them) There are Oscar winners that can walk by day to day without paparazzi following their every move, and people don't care about their personal lives as long as they create a good movie. And yeah, they still stay relevant, but still remain semi-unseen. That's where Selena wants to go with her career. She doesn't want to be a franchise or a celebrity. She wants to be an actress. Or at least, that's what I'm getting from her interviews.

NO Lindsay Lohan wasn't on a disney show. You can't compare Lindsay to any disney girl on a show. Linds was only movies. You can compare Miley to raven and hilary if you want, but not lindsay. Also Brad and Angelina weren't on a disney channel show. they worked their ways to were they are. To you she isn't interesting, but to me she is. That's an opinion.

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You can't even compare Miley to Raven and Hilary.
Miley, unlike Raven and Hilary, is indeed considered legendary.
I know you hate to hear that but it's true.
Miley is a world-wide known phenomenon.
She's had sold out tours, all of her albums have been number one, she show has always been number one, her book was number one, her albums go platinum and double platinum, and she's already worth a billion dollars.
Hilary and Raven don't have that.
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Miley isn't "legendary"...she's well-known and well-advertised. Wait 50 years, and if she's still around, then she'll be legendary. But right now she's just a successful star.

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Yes, critics and people out in Hollywood have called Miley legendary.
I told you, I know you don't wanna hear that but it's true.
The records she's broken and the things she's accomplished at the age she is, is considered legendary.

No, I've heard of people buying their way into college. Personally I don't agree with it. You should get into college based on how smart you are rather than how much money you have. My family isn't what you would call wealthy but we managed to send my brother to the University of Illinois, which in my opinion is still a great school in Illinois. But Northwestern is better in my opinion.

I think it's great that Disney stars like Selena and Nick are thinking about college. Because once their careers are up, they would need something to fall back on. I am not talking about their money but a college degree.

I'm no the original commenter but I would like to say something

Selena in my opinion is a good actress sometimes you guys tend to overrate her I must agree. If we are talking about Disney than yes she is better than Miley in subtle comedy. Comedy wise Miley is more a Reese Witherspoon and Selena is a Jennifer Aniston for lack of better comparisons. They in my opinion are still growing as actors and I think they have a chance at being really great but lets face facts Miley Cyrus is "white" female and she will be offered more roles and given more of a chance. I'm not being racist its how the industry works. Selena will be type cast.

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Some posted that in another topic I just had repost it here they make good points.

Miley is WHITE she will get more wide variety of roles.

Selena will be kinda type casted its true.

NO Lindsay Lohan wasn't on a disney show. You can't compare Lindsay to any disney girl on a show. Linds was only movies. You can compare Miley to raven and hilary if you want, but not lindsay. Also Brad and Angelina weren't on a disney channel show. they worked their ways to were they are. To you she isn't interesting, but to me she is. That's an opinion.

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You can't even compare Miley to Raven and Hilary.
Miley, unlike Raven and Hilary, is indeed considered legendary.
I know you hate to hear that but it's true.
Miley is a world-wide known phenomenon.
She's had sold out tours, all of her albums have been number one, she show has always been number one, her book was number one, her albums go platinum and double platinum, and she's already worth a billion dollars.
Hilary and Raven don't have that.
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Miley isn't "legendary"...she's well-known and well-advertised. Wait 50 years, and if she's still around, then she'll be legendary. But right now she's just a successful star.

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Yes, critics and people out in Hollywood have called Miley legendary.
I told you, I know you don't wanna hear that but it's true.
The records she's broken and the things she's accomplished at the age she is, is considered legendary.
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Critics calling her legendary while she's still being marketed by Disney is too fast of a call. I consider legendary someone that will remain remembered for decades on end. And critics aren't future tellers.
It's not that I don't want to hear it, I'm indifferent toward Miley, but she can't be called a legend yet.

i am in the business of misery let's take it from the top she's got a body like a hour glass that's ticking like a clock it's a matter of time befor we all run out
when i thought he was mine she cought him by the mouth i waited 8 long mounth's she finaly set him free i tould him i couldnt lie he was the only one for me to weeks we have cought on fire she got it out for me but i wore the biggest SMILE=]

britney did the same thing

I'm no the original commenter but I would like to say something

Selena in my opinion is a good actress sometimes you guys tend to overrate her I must agree. If we are talking about Disney than yes she is better than Miley in subtle comedy. Comedy wise Miley is more a Reese Witherspoon and Selena is a Jennifer Aniston for lack of better comparisons. They in my opinion are still growing as actors and I think they have a chance at being really great but lets face facts Miley Cyrus is "white" female and she will be offered more roles and given more of a chance. I'm not being racist its how the industry works. Selena will be type cast.

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Some posted that in another topic I just had repost it here they make good points.

Miley is WHITE she will get more wide variety of roles.

Selena will be kinda type casted its true.

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excellent point

i guess that was good but this is how i would put it.zac-vannesa(good acters)miley(bad singer)demi(good acteress and singer)selena(good actress)jonas brothers(just great and awesome i love them)

You can't even compare Miley to Raven and Hilary.
Miley, unlike Raven and Hilary, is indeed considered legendary.
I know you hate to hear that but it's true.
Miley is a world-wide known phenomenon.
She's had sold out tours, all of her albums have been number one, she show has always been number one, her book was number one, her albums go platinum and double platinum, and she's already worth a billion dollars.
Hilary and Raven don't have that.

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Also, Miley has been attending big hollywood events since the age of 15.
Oscars, Grammys, Golden Globes, and many more...
And she's also been nominated for things Hilary and Raven were never nominated for.

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being rich and famous shouldn't be synonymous with "legendary."

and attending hollywood events doesn't make you more talented

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Have you seen Miley's accomplishments

Breakout To date the album has sold more than 1,432,000 copies in the U.S. and over 2,300,000 copies worldwide.September 14, 2008, Breakout topped the Australia ARIA Album charts becoming her first number #1 album outside North America.[54] She is also the youngest artist to top the Australian charts since Avril Lavigne

Not to mention every album,movie,book has been number 1. Sould out tours,Broke numerious records,,Yeah i'd say for her age she's doing pretty damn good. Breakout was a Miley cd and it did great. Miley's cd outsold A Little Bit Longer.

exactly, the perfect comparison

15 years ago, people considered mary kate and ashley legendary and assumed they would be so successful.

but they were milked dry and now look at them. miley is being milked dry by disney. you can't go anywhere without seeing her face.

I'm no the original commenter but I would like to say something

Selena in my opinion is a good actress sometimes you guys tend to overrate her I must agree. If we are talking about Disney than yes she is better than Miley in subtle comedy. Comedy wise Miley is more a Reese Witherspoon and Selena is a Jennifer Aniston for lack of better comparisons. They in my opinion are still growing as actors and I think they have a chance at being really great but lets face facts Miley Cyrus is "white" female and she will be offered more roles and given more of a chance. I'm not being racist its how the industry works. Selena will be type cast.

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Some posted that in another topic I just had repost it here they make good points.

Miley is WHITE she will get more wide variety of roles.

Selena will be kinda type casted its true.

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excellent point

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True I didn't notice that....even Penelope Cruz seems to only get latina/spanish roles you know?

All of you are in denial. Some of the biggest Oscar Award winning actresses are front cover of most tabloid magazines.

Everyone from Kate Winslet to Angelina Jolie to Nicole Kidman to Tom Cruise etc.

Starpower brings box office success Movie biz is all about money you do the math.

Actor + Fame + StarPower = Box Office Success

It takes alot of money to make a movie and if you aren't bankable your a waste.

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i wouldnt say that anyone is in denial. it's what we believe in.

I thought Selena was white until she said she was hispanic in an interview. Just like cameron diaz I didn't notcie their last names lol. I'm from italy she looks like us a bit.

Actually when I first saw Selena on Hannah for Mikayla i thought she was white. Selena is partly white other that that not realy. Jennifer Lopez, Jessica Alba, Eva Mendez, and Salma Hayek have excellent carrers. Her race isn't an excuse it's just you guys being racist. I want to be a director when I grow up and that wouldn't kep me from hiring talent.

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Its not being racist I'm black and halle berry is the only black chick to win an oscar. So its not uncommon the race card in hollywood.

latina don't get the best roles face it its a fact.

from the ones you have named I only think Selma is a good actress and worth anything.

jlo sucks jessica alba doesn't even like to consider herself mexican what a bitch.

eva medez okay? who the fuck cares about her?

all the woman you listed are known as sex symbols period.

They lasted 20 damn years just b/c Mary-Kate and Ashley aren't doing movies they have a very succesful franchise. They have enough money from they years so they weren't exactly unsuccesful.

In replies to everyone saying that she'd be forgotten without Disney / That her love life is the only thing keeping her famous / Whatever other thing along those lines that I saw in the comments:
There is a difference between a celebrity and a respected artist. Selena's goal is to be an actress, not a celebrity. (That being said, I don't think she's saying she's "Good enough"...it's just her goal. We all have them) There are Oscar winners that can walk by day to day without paparazzi following their every move, and people don't care about their personal lives as long as they create a good movie. And yeah, they still stay relevant, but still remain semi-unseen. That's where Selena wants to go with her career. She doesn't want to be a franchise or a celebrity. She wants to be an actress.
Or at least, that's what I'm getting from her interviews.

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I agree with that. I think being under the radar works for her. She hasn't had any big scandals, which makes it seem like she's in Hollywood to be an actress. Not a celebrity.

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agree with you 100%

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All of you are in denial. Some of the biggest Oscar Award winning actresses are front cover of most tabloid magazines.

Everyone from Kate Winslet to Angelina Jolie to Nicole Kidman to Tom Cruise etc.

Starpower brings box office success Movie biz is all about money you do the math.

Actor + Fame + StarPower = Box Office Success

It takes alot of money to make a movie and if you aren't bankable your a waste.

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dude. how can you say "if you aren't bankable your a waste."

really?

do you know who daniel day-lewis is?
no googling dear.

Some posted that in another topic I just had repost it here they make good points.

Miley is WHITE she will get more wide variety of roles.

Selena will be kinda type casted its true.

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excellent point

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True I didn't notice that....even Penelope Cruz seems to only get latina/spanish roles you know?
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I don't think so. Selena is ethnically ambiguous.
Meaning, she can play a Mexican girl, an Italian girl or a white girl. Besides, she has the same facial features as her mother and her mother is 100% Italian, but Selena's eyes are Latina-ish. So yeah, Selena won't be type cast. Besides, you'd be surprised. A lot of people thought Selena was white....until they saw her last name.

Besides, people always say she looks like Rachel Bilson...who I guess is white?

if you really believe in something and continue to work at it...i believe that you will achieve it. if she wants to be a movie star i believe that she will make it happen...thats my opinion..

and as for marykate and ashley.. have you ever seen their THS? i mean..they are one of the richest most KNOWN kids ever. 20 years from now you will know who they are. they have their hands in everything.. modeling..makeup..clothing..perfume..toys..they had those videos and full house. they lasted VERY long and are still going. just because they aren't in films doesn't make them nothing

EVERYONE GO ON TWITTER AND TWEET #GOKEYISADOUCHE
GO GO GO GO~~

oh and btw look what i found!
Miley: http://www.facebook.com/dragoonlovessnighthawk
Demi: http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1827886914

SOMEONE HACK THIS SHIT PLZ
(btw i love them both ♥ but not bobblehead gomez)

You can't even compare Miley to Raven and Hilary.
Miley, unlike Raven and Hilary, is indeed considered legendary.
I know you hate to hear that but it's true.
Miley is a world-wide known phenomenon.
She's had sold out tours, all of her albums have been number one, she show has always been number one, her book was number one, her albums go platinum and double platinum, and she's already worth a billion dollars.
Hilary and Raven don't have that.

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(Continued)
Also, Miley has been attending big hollywood events since the age of 15.
Oscars, Grammys, Golden Globes, and many more...
And she's also been nominated for things Hilary and Raven were never nominated for.

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being rich and famous shouldn't be synonymous with "legendary."

and attending hollywood events doesn't make you more talented...

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When did I say being rich and famous considered her legendary?
Her achievements and goals do.
And when did I say that made her more talented?

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well. you said she was legendary.

then you went on to list reasons. one of which being that she was worth a billion dollars.

and then you stated that she goes to hollywood events, which really isn't a valid point at all. you could be the shittiest actress, and go to hollywood events. Not saying that Miley is a shitty actress, but you catch my drift.

The way it was worded made it seem like being worth a lot and being out and about in Hollywood makes one more successful than others.
hm. i guess i misinterpreted. oh well.

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Yeah, she's worth a billion dollars BECAUSE OF HER ACHIEVEMENTS.

In replies to everyone saying that she'd be forgotten without Disney / That her love life is the only thing keeping her famous / Whatever other thing along those lines that I saw in the comments:
There is a difference between a celebrity and a respected artist. Selena's goal is to be an actress, not a celebrity. (That being said, I don't think she's saying she's "Good enough"...it's just her goal. We all have them) There are Oscar winners that can walk by day to day without paparazzi following their every move, and people don't care about their personal lives as long as they create a good movie. And yeah, they still stay relevant, but still remain semi-unseen. That's where Selena wants to go with her career. She doesn't want to be a franchise or a celebrity. She wants to be an actress.
Or at least, that's what I'm getting from her interviews.

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I agree with that. I think being under the radar works for her. She hasn't had any big scandals, which makes it seem like she's in Hollywood to be an actress. Not a celebrity.

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agree with you 100%

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All of you are in denial. Some of the biggest Oscar Award winning actresses are front cover of most tabloid magazines.

Everyone from Kate Winslet to Angelina Jolie to Nicole Kidman to Tom Cruise etc.

Starpower brings box office success Movie biz is all about money you do the math.

Actor + Fame + StarPower = Box Office Success

It takes alot of money to make a movie and if you aren't bankable your a waste.

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Not all Oscar winners are though.
I think you completely missed my point. My point was that there are Oscar winners that don't get paparazzi to follow their every move, and they aren't known for their personal lives, but that people do know them for being great in so-and-so movie. They are bankable because they are good actors that are recognized AS being actors...and not the one that dated whoever whenever and created whatever scandal. Does that make sense?

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Scandals/press time never break anyone or make them less of a good actor is all I'm saying.

Every great actor has had plenty of scandals like Shia said some of the greatest actors are real crazy.

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No, they don't break them, but they don't always make them either. Just saying.
You don't need a scandal or interesting personal life to be a well-respected, bankable actress . And Selena wants to be respected. She doesn't want controversies.

Forbes updated Celebrity 100

Jonas Brothers #60
'Miley Cyrus #29
Taylor Swift #69

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I'm sorry, is it better to be #1 or #100?
That is probably a very stupid question....
am I going to get attacked right now?

Selena:
Wizards Of Waverly Place: 3 seasons
Beezus and Ramona by Walden Media
Princess Protection Program Dcom
Wizards Of Waverly Place Movie
Another Cinderella Story-Direct To DVD
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Shia Labeouf:
Even Stevens-3 seasons
Hole-Walden media
Tru Confessions-Dcom
Even Stevens Movei
The Greatest Game Ever Played-Direct to Dvd

IDK just saying it was wierd someone brought it up and I checked it out. Selena is the next Shia she has a carrer outside of disney:)
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That is strange.
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haha, that's realy weird....

You can't even compare Miley to Raven and Hilary.
Miley, unlike Raven and Hilary, is indeed considered legendary.
I know you hate to hear that but it's true.
Miley is a world-wide known phenomenon.
She's had sold out tours, all of her albums have been number one, she show has always been number one, her book was number one, her albums go platinum and double platinum, and she's already worth a billion dollars.
Hilary and Raven don't have that.

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(Continued)
Also, Miley has been attending big hollywood events since the age of 15.
Oscars, Grammys, Golden Globes, and many more...
And she's also been nominated for things Hilary and Raven were never nominated for.

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being rich and famous shouldn't be synonymous with "legendary."

and attending hollywood events doesn't make you more talented...

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When did I say being rich and famous considered her legendary?
Her achievements and goals do.
And when did I say that made her more talented?

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well. you said she was legendary.

then you went on to list reasons. one of which being that she was worth a billion dollars.

and then you stated that she goes to hollywood events, which really isn't a valid point at all. you could be the shittiest actress, and go to hollywood events. Not saying that Miley is a shitty actress, but you catch my drift.

The way it was worded made it seem like being worth a lot and being out and about in Hollywood makes one more successful than others.
hm. i guess i misinterpreted. oh well.

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Yeah, she's worth a billion dollars BECAUSE OF HER ACHIEVEMENTS.

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She has talent, you can't deny that, HOWEVER....

She is NOT worth a billion dollars because of her achievements. That's being a tad bit delusional. Disney marketed her, they sold Hannah Montana projects. Most of the billion dollars is Disney's money and not hers. She sold out concerts because little girls wanted to hear Hannah Montana sing...because that was Disney's franchise. And Of course there were thousands of fans that went there for Miley's talent aside from the Hannah Montana tweenies, but just her talent alone without Disney would not make her worth nearly as much money. At all.

how r these disney stars working, getting home schooled, graduating at 16, and getting 4.0s??? shes also a senior and hasnt done any of her sats... i swear if she gets into northwestern while all of us who go to school everyday and get good grades can barely get into colleges im gonna be pissed

Dude, it's obvious that they don't do half the stuff REAL kids do in school. They probably don't even do the stuff the NORMAL homeschooled kids do. You think that if they have a big movie coming up, their "tutors" are really going to fail them? No way. They bullshit their way through high school.

http://www.forbes.com/lists/2008/53/celebrities08_The-Celebrity-100_Rank...

the jonas brothers were actually 89 but that's amazing they are up there

i understood that you were just replying to that one person, i just was saying that i wouldn't bother to try to re-explain something that was so simple for most people )

Scandals/press time never break anyone or make them less of a good actor is all I'm saying.

Every great actor has had plenty of scandals like Shia said some of the greatest actors are real crazy.

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actually scandals can break people's careers in hollywood. one at the top of my head is kathy lee gifford with the sweat shop scandal.

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She was a shitty actress to start with and has no star quality at all and to be honest I never even heard sweat shop thing, that should tell you something.

That's from 08 here's the link to 09!
http://www.forbes.com/lists/2009/53/celebrity-09_The-Celebrity-100_Rank....

Have you notcied for the forbes list it has disney as the reason for their succes.. LOL. Well it reminds me of mary kate and ashle being onf orbes back then.

Forbes updated Celebrity 100

Jonas Brothers #60
'Miley Cyrus #29
Taylor Swift #69

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I'm sorry, is it better to be #1 or #100?
That is probably a very stupid question....
am I going to get attacked right now
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It's better to be #1 Angelina Jolie has it of course. The rank is based of MOINEY EARNED!,Press,Tv/Radio Exposure,and Web Rank.

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Wow, and Miley is 29!?
Congrats bb!

how r these disney stars working, getting home schooled, graduating at 16, and getting 4.0s??? shes also a senior and hasnt done any of her sats... i swear if she gets into northwestern while all of us who go to school everyday and get good grades can barely get into colleges im gonna be pissed

Dude, it's obvious that they don't do half the stuff REAL kids do in school. They probably don't even do the stuff the NORMAL homeschooled kids do. You think that if they have a big movie coming up, their "tutors" are really going to fail them? No way. They bullshit their way through high school
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True facts!

They will ALL have it hard after Disney.

Disney and Hollywood Records gave them an automatic fandom in the millions, a "Get rich and famous" card that only lasts for as long as teens feel interested in them. Not only that, the company created and manufactured every single one of their projects with the entire power of its media machine.

Unfortunately for these people, the clock is ticking on their Disney Fame and once Disney gets sick of them (or finishes milking them of every cent they are worth) they are gonna be left practically alone against the real entretainment industry. They will lose more than half their fandoms and must actually PROVE themselves as talented to sustain a profitable long term career.

That's why they try so hard to break away from the channel. There is such a thing as overexposure, and that's exactly what Disney is giving both Cyrus and the Jonas Brothers - Both of whom don't have the real talent to sustain their current levels of fame (Specially Cyrus).

And Demi, although actually talented, is just starting to be considered a major star by the company- so she is still stuck with the mouse for several years to come. If her music comes off right, she might actually make the transition flawlessly.

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LOL out of all of them Miley will make it if she sticks to acting there is no money or recognition in Country Music for her.

Through the last song she will gain more recognition and people will see her in a new light than all it takes is big names to look at her.

DONE.

JO BROS need to milk it than go their seperate ways maybe become actors or something I only see Nick going anywhere.

Forbes updated Celebrity 100

Jonas Brothers #60
'Miley Cyrus #29
Taylor Swift #69

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I'm sorry, is it better to be #1 or #100?
That is probably a very stupid question....
am I going to get attacked right now
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It's better to be #1 Angelina Jolie has it of course. The rank is based of MOINEY EARNED!,Press,Tv/Radio Exposure,and Web Rank.

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Wow, and Miley is 29!?
Congrats bb!

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LOL Miley beat Angie in money earned!

My brother is graduating from Northwestern this weekend...I
I really don't think it's fair for celebrities to just
get into college because they are celebrities-my brother
had to work his butt off to get in and I have worked
mine off so I can get into college. Selena's "tutors" are
hardly hard work...

Forbes updated Celebrity 100

Jonas Brothers #60
'Miley Cyrus #29
Taylor Swift #69

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I'm sorry, is it better to be #1 or #100?
That is probably a very stupid question....
am I going to get attacked right now
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It's better to be #1 Angelina Jolie has it of course. The rank is based of MOINEY EARNED!,Press,Tv/Radio Exposure,and Web Rank.

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Wow, and Miley is 29!?
Congrats bb!
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I agree Congrats MC!

Anonymous | June 17, 2009 11:06 PM | Reply Forbes updated Celebrity 100

Jonas Brothers #60
'Miley Cyrus #29
Taylor Swift #69

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I'm sorry, is it better to be #1 or #100?
That is probably a very stupid question....
am I going to get attacked right now
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It's better to be #1 Angelina Jolie has it of course. The rank is based of MOINEY EARNED!,Press,Tv/Radio Exposure,and Web Rank.

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Wow, and Miley is 29!?
Congrats bb!

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LOL Miley beat Angie in money earned
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No.Miley made 2 million less then Angelina.

This girl just keeps getting owned and it's the same one replying she doesn't get it in her head that Miley will not have a carrer outside of disney. After hannah she will not be known.

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i'm not a big miley fan. she's okay but im not one of those crazy fans. but i dont know. if she really pulls off this movie (since it is a sparks movie) i think she really might have a chance. i think that if it doesnt do that well will pretty much show how her career will go

Scandals/press time never break anyone or make them less of a good actor is all I'm saying.

Every great actor has had plenty of scandals like Shia said some of the greatest actors are real crazy.

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actually scandals can break people's careers in hollywood. one at the top of my head is kathy lee gifford with the sweat shop scandal.

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chris brown beat his girl.. his career might be done because of that
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AMEN. I think it already is done. SAD he was on top of him game too:(

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exactly. what parent wants their kids to listen to chris brown and take them to concerts after he did? he was a MAJOR artist. and because of that scandal its done

also, lindsay is probably going to be another good one. nobody wants to work with her because all of her scandals. nobody will touch her. when she was young and "trouble free" she did awesome. but then out comes georgia rule and whatever scary movie she was in and im pretty sure they bombed.

SOMETIMES - scandals can break people. im NOT saying all of the time..

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chris hasn't been found guilty yet and lindsay fucked her personal life from before she was 18 partying and drinking she even said it herself. Public just didn't care when she was young.

Now Miley Selena Demi JB are under microscop and everyones waiting for them to fuck up.

Congrats on your brother graduating. Are you looking to go to Northwestern as well? Or maybe Illinios State, University of Illinois, Loyola, SIU, EIU, UIC?

Yeah Selena plays an italian/Mexican girl on Wizards. She also played a white girl on ppp come on Sam Carter. Guest staring on Hannah Mikayla Barnes that's white. Then she went to Another Cinderella Story to play Mary guessing hispanic. The girl can play both.That isn't an excuse she will go big she doesn't even look hispanic. That excuse people used for her not being to get rules is bullshit. Like I said I'm going to be a director and last names or how peopel look will nto stop me from getting the best actors.
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I definitely agree that

chris brown beat his girl.. his career might be done because of that.

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That is yet to be determined don't jump on it yet. He is a jerk but we have seen worse.

Micheal was found not guilty of CHILD MOLESTATION charges and went on to have a 1 hit and is still the biggest name in the industry.

wait for the verdict to decided if his career is over. I would laugh if he comes with another hit.

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that is very true about MJ. i will give you that. but i mean.. really.. the kid has pictures against him and everything and turned himself in. its not looking good for him. i 110% LOVED chris brown (i was one of the those fans haha) but now.. i lost so much respect for him. - but you are 100% right. we will have to wait for the verdict

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I was saying...
I definitely agree that Selena is versatile within races.
However, you may want to rethink how you're casting your future movies. Ha ha. I mean, you can't have like, a white girl with an Asian mom in a movie? That makes no sense. To act in roles, you also have to physically fit the requirements. It's sad, but it's reality.

This girl just keeps getting owned and it's the same one replying she doesn't get it in her head that Miley will not have a carrer outside of disney. After hannah she will not be known.

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i'm not a big miley fan. she's okay but im not one of those crazy fans. but i dont know. if she really pulls off this movie (since it is a sparks movie) i think she really might have a chance. i think that if it doesnt do that well will pretty much show how her career will go
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Miley jumped into that sparks movie too fast because it was Nicholas. She shouldn't have done that. She';s going from playing a popstar to a rebilious teen who is kissing all over the ocean. Bad move on her part. On top fot hat she's been too blown up already it's too late to go back. She will not have a carrer after disney.

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( i gave myself a name haha)
but see.. the producer or director - whoever does the hiring. picked her for a reason. they thought she was good. im sure there were more actresses who had wayy more experience in movies who auditioned but miley got the part. so that means something. i think if she does a good job - she just may have a chance. but i def. do see your point as well

SHUT UP GUYS

Who know what will happen to Miley or Selena.

Sel should do college later I wanna see her as a legit actress first

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we're having a discussion.. nothing is wrong like that. its not like a crazy niley fight. we're just talking about it and giving our opinions..

Yeah Selena plays an italian/Mexican girl on Wizards. She also played a white girl on ppp come on Sam Carter. Guest staring on Hannah Mikayla Barnes that's white. Then she went to Another Cinderella Story to play Mary guessing hispanic. The girl can play both.That isn't an excuse she will go big she doesn't even look hispanic. That excuse people used for her not being to get rules is bullshit. Like I said I'm going to be a director and last names or how peopel look will nto stop me from getting the best actors.
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I definitely agree that
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No I think the person had a point and you can't deny it just because you're gonna be a director and cast whoever.

There are way more movies made with white female leads constantly.

Kate Winslet just won for the Reader right? If it was between Miley and Selena only the director would take Miley because she WHITE and can pull of a german. DONE. This has nothing to do with racism just facts.

wtf is with all the selena posts?
nothing relevant, tim?
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oh just be quiet! when all OceanUp posted about were niley/miley/jb, i'm sure you had no problem with it. i didn't like it at all but i beared with it. now you should have some respect for the Selena posts. i'm glad Selena is finally getting alot of posts. she deserves it.

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i agree with you. i didnt mind it. but i wanted more demi and selena and everyone else

alot of mexican actress in the american. Salma Hayek
an oscar nominee for the movie Frida.

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She lost to a "white" chick sorry to say it hollywood is made for the white folk.

sad but true.

you know what everyone?
there are 3 simple things you need to live in
hollywood

1)talent
2)MONEY
and
3)the contnuing act of misbehaviors.

This girl just keeps getting owned and it's the same one replying she doesn't get it in her head that Miley will not have a carrer outside of disney. After hannah she will not be known.
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you dont know that miley's 16 theres no need to make that transition yet. shes well on her way into being in more films that are non hannah. in a few years, she may just be able to pull it off. she has the "IT" factor AND as much as some people like to deny it, she DOES have some raw talant. if she plays her cards right, she just might make it. everyone's situation is different. and what may work for some, might not for others.

I can't wait until WOWP The Movie is nominated for an Oscar and proves all you selena fans wrong!!!!!!!!

Yeah Selena plays an italian/Mexican girl on Wizards. She also played a white girl on ppp come on Sam Carter. Guest staring on Hannah Mikayla Barnes that's white. Then she went to Another Cinderella Story to play Mary guessing hispanic. The girl can play both.That isn't an excuse she will go big she doesn't even look hispanic. That excuse people used for her not being to get rules is bullshit. Like I said I'm going to be a director and last names or how peopel look will nto stop me from getting the best actors.
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I definitely agree that
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No I think the person had a point and you can't deny it just because you're gonna be a director and cast whoever.

There are way more movies made with white female leads constantly.

Kate Winslet just won for the Reader right? If it was between Miley and Selena only the director would take Miley because she WHITE and can pull of a german. DONE. This has nothing to do with racism just facts.

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Word. If Miley and Selena were the only girls competing Miley would get the part. In Hollywood there just isn't enough latina/mexican roles. And they will look at her name its GOMEZ for crying out loud. And she looks mexican to me? I live in NY and we have latina's on my block all the time I see no diff. Change her hair colour maybe but it doesn't change the fact they she is a latina.

THIS IS RANDOM BUT I HATE NIGGERS. MILEY IS A BILLIONARE DUMBASSES
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so wrong. so so so wrong.

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Your pathetic I am Black I love Miley and I'm sure she would hate you if she knew you were a fan.

you know what everyone?
there are 3 simple things you need to live in
hollywood

1)talent
2)MONEY
and
3)the contnuing act of misbehaviors

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Amen! I would kiss the floor you walk on...if I could.

I mean Miley fans!!!!!

i meant i can't wait until WOWP the movie gets nominated for an oscar and proves all you miley fans wrong!!!!!

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as much as i love selena.. that's not happening. the last song maybe nominated for an oscar. but not wowp the movie.

I mean Miley fans!!!!!

i meant i can't wait until WOWP the movie gets nominated for an oscar and proves all you miley fans wrong!!!!!

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google what an Oscar....quick!

I can't wait until WOWP The Movie is nominated for an Oscar and proves all you selena fans wrong!!!!!!!!
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UMMM we can tell your a miley fan...

Just a little remainder for everyone, Miley Cyrus IS NOT WORTH A BILLION DOLLARS. THAT'S WHAT THE HANNAH MONTANA FRANCHISE WAS PROJECTED TO BE.

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Miley Cyrus IS worth a billion dollars.
It's a fact.

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exactly Miley went on tour as Hannah Montana AND MILEY CYRUS best of both worlds she is hardly only known for Miley please.
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The Hannah Montana franchise is the one with the billion dollar figure. She as a singer/actress "only" earns around 25 million each year.

THIS IS RANDOM BUT I HATE NIGGERS. MILEY IS A BILLIONARE DUMBASSES
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so wrong. so so so wrong.

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Your pathetic I am Black I love Miley and I'm sure she would hate you if she knew you were a fan.
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Miley doesn['t like asians neither do I. We don't like niggers because of Jamie Fox. EWW nigger get out don't come to a concert NIGGER.

Haha! You're a dumbass!! even if the director chose Miley, she will never portray the role as wonderful as Kate did! Heck, evem Selena will do a better job playing that character than Miley!!
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and you would know that... HOW? miley hasent been on anything besides HM. she hasent gotten a chance to prove herself yet. and plus, selena dosent seem like much of a risk taker. i dont think shes going to go for a role like kate's in the reader.

Tell that to George Clooney. No, in order to become a RESPECTED ARTIST one should only be talented and a little lucky.

In order to be a celebrity one should stick with having scandal after scandal after scandal, like certain tween star who has mastered the ability to make herself look bad over and over and over again.

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When Selena makes "mistakes" and continues do be successful achieves things no one before her in her own age group has achieved in music, tv, and even books etc. Then come talk to me about a certain tween star.

and you would know that... HOW? miley hasent been on anything besides HM. she hasent gotten a chance to prove herself yet. and plus, selena dosent seem like much of a risk taker. i dont think shes going to go for a role like kate's in the reader.
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Miley is a lousy actress and you actually haven't done your research on Selena. Selena even said that she wants to play a crazy, psychotic person and she also wants to be in a horror movie sometime in the future. she wants to challenge herself and be taken seriously as an actress! but right now she's just taking it slow.

But she has already been clasified as Hannah Montana and as a joke pretty much by everyone. Young adults, male and female, aren't really into her demographic. Many consider her annoying and talentless. And once again, her fame is almost exclusively based on her charisma with children, not on her singing or acting capabilities
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you never know. shes not concidered a joke. and the only thing shes really been in is hannah montana. as i said before if she plays her cards right, she CAN make it out. she CAN start her carreer over. remember drew barrymore? yea she had a messed up early carreer life. but she started all over and look where she is now? everyone's situation is different. it just depends on the person. if miley proves herself outside of disney, she actually has a shot out there.

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Same with Reese Witherspoon she got knocked up with a kids during the height of her teen movie career look at her now? She has even won an Oscar.

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The list can go on some people act like Miley's little photo scandals will make her break her career. People grow up and move on they go on to become amazing with every hardship you come out stronger in every which way.

Its not what you go through but how you come out of it.

Miley has had "scandal after scandal" "tons of mistakes" yet she still manages to be on top and best of all SMILE!

She is not the best role model but I wanna be a nurse why the fuck would I look up to Miley for that? Who cares about role models and acting all proper and perfect?

In order to be a celebrity one should stick with having scandal after scandal after scandal, like certain tween star who has mastered the ability to make herself look bad over and over and over again.
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i personally think that her mistakes and scandles is making her transition from a teen star to an adult star way easier. when the time comes that she starts getting more mature roles, people wouldnt be as surprised and shocked as they would if those 'scandles' havent happened. remember when hillary duff decided to shed her good girl image? yea she lost a crapload of fans because no one was used to seeing her act like an adult and so many people were freaked out by it wondering "what happened?" miley may have faced some problems but she hasent had anything like a 'meltdown' and shes not completley OUT OF CONTROL like former stars. if she does things right, she might just pull through.

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haha so true none freaked out about her wet t-shirt make out scene in the last song. you point is right on. Hilary did WAR INC and I was like WTFFFF. How can I take her sex kitten ways seriously?

Dude, Selena is ethnically ambiguous.
Selena's looks is more versatile than Miley's.
Selena can play a Mexican girl, a white girl, an Italian girl, and etc. etc.. while Miley can only play a white girl.

Do you comprehend? A lot of people actually thought she was white until they saw her name.

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exactly! it's great that Selena is ethnically ambiguous. that means more movie roles!

In order to be a celebrity one should stick with having scandal after scandal after scandal, like certain tween star who has mastered the ability to make herself look bad over and over and over again.
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i personally think that her mistakes and scandles is making her transition from a teen star to an adult star way easier. when the time comes that she starts getting more mature roles, people wouldnt be as surprised and shocked as they would if those 'scandles' havent happened. remember when hillary duff decided to shed her good girl image? yea she lost a crapload of fans because no one was used to seeing her act like an adult and so many people were freaked out by it wondering "what happened?" miley may have faced some problems but she hasent had anything like a 'meltdown' and shes not completley OUT OF CONTROL like former stars. if she does things right, she might just pull through.

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Good Point. I wouldn't be shocked if Miley did a nude scene or a sex scene maybe a little but its not the same as seeing hilary do one or Selena for that matter.

GREAT IDEA: WHY DOESN'T EVERYBODY GO TO BED! GO DRINK MILK AND EAT YOUR COOKIES TEENIES:)

I mean Miley fans!!!!!

i meant i can't wait until WOWP the movie gets nominated for an oscar and proves all you miley fans wrong!!!!!

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as much as i love selena.. that's not happening. the last song maybe nominated for an oscar. but not wowp the movie.

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you don't love selena stop lying!!
if you really loved selena you would agree that it's
going to get nominated for an oscar!!
stop being in denial you miley fans!

Reese Witherspoon was an established actress and gained a lot of respect when she had the baby. She wasn't on a disney show either.

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Wrong. Reese Witherspoon was a self proclaimed "good christian girl" sound familiar? She was a teens star she got pregnant during Cruel Intentions and got married she was critized for it. ALOT. They covered it with a marriage. She bounced back after because the two films she did before were released and she got critics approval for Best Laid Plans. The role that got her recognized was Legally Blond than it was uphill from there.

So no she was just another teen star who claimed to come from good chritian family with good christian values who got knocked up and screwed up big time only to pull through and prove to the world she was talented.

And now noone can talk shit abotu her she has a oscar under her belt for Walk the Line.