Justin Bieber Selena Gomez Beach Babes

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Jelena made out on the beach and played with Bieby’s family at Paradise Cove in Malibu. They tossed around the kids and splashed in the ocean. Photos: GSI Media, FameFlynet.

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  • Unanimous

    Ooopppsss! Great guess!!??!? How do you know it’s a thong. I can’t even see her butt cheeks! Lol!
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    l?veislouder said:
    well if it’s not a thong, that would be one revealing bikini bottom lol. but seeing as they did not go swimming and seemed to have no intention to, I would assume Selena got dressed for a stroll along the beach, not a swim. therefore, it’d be a thong. I’d wear a thong with a dress like that too; it’s just easier.
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    Not everybody wears thong. I hate them. I haven’t seen her wear any either. She’s been wearing fully covered panties most of the time. She’s probably wearing a bikini panty because she knows she’ll eventually get wet and she’s not shy to show it. If it’s a panty she’ll probably be more careful. You said it yourself, it’s a bikini panty. Lol!

  • Unanimous

    Anonymous said:
    What are you 12? At least she has underwear on. This is the sort of thing that makes me understand why Selena hates paparazzi so much. This pic did not need to be shared. Probably some 45 year old dirty ugly guy took the picture

    wait one second when miley get a photograph by somebody focusing on her private is her fault but when is selena privates is somebody else is fault what a fucking double standard selena fans are!!!
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    Wait, don’t get so heated up! Miley actually showed her Brazilian shaven vgg. Showing a litte bit of panty is not as bad! Lol!

  • Anonymous

    He has a Jesus tattoo??

  • Anonymous
  • lovemestealmeawayy

    ow, i seen more pictures on another site, and theres one picture where Justin and Selena are making out right in front of Justins father.. I guess they dont care who is around when they kiss.. But oops, i forgot, its all for pr, right? Even in front of his family they are faking their relationship!! HAHA, BTW, im being sarcastic!!

    what website? i want to see

  • kathy

    In the smaller pictures, picture #8, it looks like Justin is dropping his brother! or throwing him, hopefully he caught him.. lol,, And you must admit, Selena looks very happy when shes around Justin’s little brother and sister! its probably because she is an only child, so this gives her the feeling of having a little brother and sister!! I find it very adorable!

  • l?veislouder

    lololol at the matching yellow!

  • Anonymous

    @lovemestealmeawayy, go to google, type up Justin Bieber, February 17, 2012, and then look for Justin Bieber Shrine. The title says something like Justin Bieber makes out with Selena in front of family,, or something like that!!

  • LoveToLove

    she looks very pretty, they both look good imo :)

  • l?veislouder

    He has a Jesus tattoo??
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    he has two. one is “Jesus” in Hebrew, and the other is Jesus’ face on his calf.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t even like her and she looks cute in these pics.

  • Anonymous

    On another note. They all look so happy together. So glad Justin got some time with Jazzy and Jaxon.

  • Anonymous

    Her dress is so cute!

  • Anonymous

    ow, i seen more pictures on another site, and theres one picture where Justin and Selena are making out right in front of Justins father.. I guess they dont care who is around when they kiss.. But oops, i forgot, its all for pr, right? Even in front of his family they are faking their relationship!! HAHA, BTW, im being sarcastic!!

    what website? i want to see

    ..! http://pic.twitter.com/4AXGyerA

  • Unanimous

    Anonymous said:
    http://oceanup.com/photogallery?nid=68106&fid=473086
    eww pink thong
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    Ooopppsss! Great guess!!??!? How do you know it’s a thong. I can’t even see her butt cheeks! Lol!

  • Anonymous

    It’s so weird how Selena’s always with Justin’s parents & friends but he’s never with hers. Doesn’t she feel clingy? I would. LMFAO.

  • l?veislouder

    Ooopppsss! Great guess!!??!? How do you know it’s a thong. I can’t even see her butt cheeks! Lol!
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    well if it’s not a thong, that would be one revealing bikini bottom lol. but seeing as they did not go swimming and seemed to have no intention to, I would assume Selena got dressed for a stroll along the beach, not a swim. therefore, it’d be a thong. I’d wear a thong with a dress like that too; it’s just easier.

  • Anonymous

    http://oceanup.com/photogallery?nid=68106&fid=473086
    eww pink thong
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    Ooopppsss! Great guess!!??!? How do you know it’s a thong. I can’t even see her butt cheeks! Lol
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    selena has no respect flashing his family and then makeout in front of little kids and family the girl has no morals or ethics.

  • Anonymous

    Ooopppsss! Great guess!!??!? How do you know it’s a thong. I can’t even see her butt cheeks! Lol!
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    well if it’s not a thong, that would be one revealing bikini bottom lol. but seeing as they did not go swimming and seemed to have no intention to, I would assume Selena got dressed for a stroll along the beach, not a swim. therefore, it’d be a thong. I’d wear a thong with a dress like that too; it’s just easier
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    easier to take off for justin lol.

  • Anonymous

    Feb 17, 2012 @ 06:28 pm
    Anonymous said:

    http://oceanup.com/photogallery?nid=68106&fid=473086

    eww pink thong

    What are you 12? At least she has underwear on. This is the sort of thing that makes me understand why Selena hates paparazzi so much. This pic did not need to be shared. Probably some 45 year old dirty ugly guy took the picture.

  • Anonymous

    they both seem so rehearse and fake!

  • Anonymous

    What are you 12? At least she has underwear on. This is the sort of thing that makes me understand why Selena hates paparazzi so much. This pic did not need to be shared. Probably some 45 year old dirty ugly guy took the picture

    wait one second when miley get a photograph by somebody focusing on her private is her fault but when is selena privates is somebody else is fault what a fucking double standard selena fans are!!!

  • Anonymous

    Feb 17, 2012 @ 06:54 pm
    Anonymous said:

    It’s so weird how Selena’s always with Justin’s parents & friends but he’s never with hers. Doesn’t she feel clingy? I would. LMFAO.

    Justin spends lots of time with Selena’s friends. Guess what, they are in a relationship so they spend time together. You only get to see the times that Paps catch them.

  • Anonymous

    OMG, who cares if they kissed in front of his family? What are you, some kind of prude? A kiss is harmless.. I mean, im sure Jazzy and Jaxon have seen their father kissing their mother before! And its not like Justin has his hands on her ass like he usually does!! lol. Its an innocent little kiss.. Just another reason for you to hate on her or him.. Its pretty stupid actually! But whatever, when you find love, you will understand!

  • Anonymous

    Feb 17, 2012 @ 06:59 pm
    Anonymous said:

    What are you 12? At least she has underwear on. This is the sort of thing that makes me understand why Selena hates paparazzi so much. This pic did not need to be shared. Probably some 45 year old dirty ugly guy took the picture

    wait one second when miley get a photograph by somebody focusing on her private is her fault but when is selena privates is somebody else is fault what a fucking double standard selena fans are!!!

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    Nice try I am also a fan of Miley’s and YES I was pissed that that pap took that picture and released iit of her too.

  • l?veislouder

    It’s so weird how Selena’s always with Justin’s parents & friends but he’s never with hers. Doesn’t she feel clingy? I would. LMFAO.
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    it could be a bit of an insecurity issue. she feels Justin could leave her at any time, so she immerses herself in the family and entangles herself in relations with them, so it’ll be harder to break up. the little siblings will ask about her, the mother will go on and on about how she loved her, the father will say a mistake was made; it’s derived from insecurity in the relationship. I’ll admit to having done it. I knew that if I made the family love me, and if the guy broke up with me, the family would give him hell for it, and that could lead to a chance of getting back together. of course, I was also 14 and not as confident in myself as I am now. but almost 6 years later, that ex’s mom still loves me more than anyone else her son has dated :D so obviously, I did something right lol

  • Anonymous

    l?veislouder said:

    I understand what you’re saying, but what about all the times they are apart? Selena seems like a pretty strong person. Why can’t it just be because they are deeply in love?

  • CASSI101FUL

    wait one second when miley get a photograph by somebody focusing on her private is her fault but when is selena privates is somebody else is fault what a fucking double standard selena fans are!!

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    Well at least selena was wearing underwear and she waesnt when they took pics of her and zoom it in

    http://www.google.com/search?q=miley+cyrus+showing+her+private&tbm=isch&pbx=1&aq=&oq=&aqi=&fkt=&fsdt=&cqt=&rst=&htf=&his=&maction=&site=images&gl=us&source=mog&csll=&action=&ltoken=7b7cd31f&biw=320&bih=533&sei=_BU_T5mmC8je2AWDou2gCA#i=1

  • Anonymous

    oh look! more photoshoots! doesnt jelena ever get sick of calling the paps and whoring out their “private moments”? selena is lower than low for using justin’s little siblings to get attention. and justin is too. if he really cared about jazzy and jaxon, he would not REPEATEDLY put their lives on artificial display. what awful excuses for people. this is SICK.

    and justin needs to cut that hair. and wtf is with the hair dye? like… why?

  • marian

    I dislike Bieber but i can’t help to say: Awwwwwww they look so freakin cute!
    And i saw Selena’s ass and almost vagina but that can happen to anybody. Paparazzis are pervs.

  • Anonymous

    Anonymous said:

    oh look! more photoshoots! doesnt jelena ever get sick of calling the paps and whoring out their “private moments”? selena is lower than low for using justin’s little siblings to get attention. and justin is too. if he really cared about jazzy and jaxon, he would not REPEATEDLY put their lives on artificial display. what awful excuses for people. this is SICK.

    and justin needs to cut that hair. and wtf is with the hair dye? like… why?

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    Ah tell you what become as famous as Justin and as high profile as Jelena is right now and move to California. You will quickly learn that Paps crawl out of the woodwork and actually network with each other to find these people.

  • Anonymous

    http://oceanup.com/photogallery?nid=68106&fid=473146

    can see it better here.. but still cant see her butt cheeks lmao

  • Anonymous
  • l?veislouder

    ‘still not getting the point are you slow? honestly you just repeated the samething without even thinking what you are saying! am not denying am excited is you who are twisting your own words on what is that am excited about honey!
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    no, I said you were excited about having found the picture. you were the one to say “I’m not excited I found it to see Selena’s vajayjay, I’m excited I found it because now I have proof that it happens to anyone.”
    regardless of your reason, you’re still excited to have found the picture. that’s what I’m saying, honey; you’re the one getting it twisted.

  • l?veislouder

    why this a selena post and we are talking about selena, I just love to point out how selena fans have double standard on selena and miley! i will probably will have never gone to selena post if selena fans will had never set foot on miley post to talk shit! so now that selena is getting a glimpse of what miley had to deal for years and selena fans keep bashing miley for is nice to see that everything they critized miley and call her a slut is happen to selena lately! karma is all am saying!
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    an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.

  • Anonymous

    Feb 17, 2012 @ 09:33 pm
    l?veislouder said:

    Well I would like to hear your findings when this does happen.
    Until I see for myself a reason though I will like Selena for whom I know her to be, from what I have been given.

  • Anonymous

    You can tell it’s for publicity because when it isn’t Justin get’s made and swears at them!!

  • Anonymous

    You can tell it’s for publicity because when it isn’t Justin get’s made and swears at them!!

  • Anonymous

    Feb 17, 2012 @ 09:40 pm
    Anonymous said:

    You can tell it’s for publicity because when it isn’t Justin get’s made and swears at them!!
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    When stupid cunts harass them all day at an amusement park, I think they are entitled to get pissed. The cameramen here could be 500 feet away hiding.

  • mimi

    I have met Selena twice, once at a meet and greet and the other just in the street in Toronto, and both times she was unbelievably approachable and sweet. As to the behind closed doors thing, if it is private why not keep it private? Yes she has a career that has been built on a squeaky clean image and to me that is one way to go. All I know is that it has gotten her pretty far
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    Miley had a squeaky clean image until someone stole her stuff and perez decided to pick on her! people loved miley! you don’t know what selena does behind close doors as far as we know she could be doing worse than miley but they watch her pretty close for thing not to get leaked because they learn from what happen to miley they are more careful all the thing that happen to miley, selena pr team is trying to avoid, but selena has done worst in the sense she only been getting a lot of attention for a year and because miley step back for a year to do charity selena hasn’t had any competition, so people stared looking at her and with the small attention she getting, she has gotten caught in hotel with her boyfriend, her bare ass on camera, tight cleavage open, and miley booty pants, and no bra pictures, no panties picture, her boyfriend touching her breast and her ass in public showing her vagina and pubic hair to the list, and her kissing friend like miley got a bad rep for doing that, and performing in tight and outfits like miley and if this only been a year of selena getting some attention imagen if she will have gotten this attention like miley at 13! so selena is not as clean as you all think is just that the media don’t hate on her to point it out like they do to miley!!

  • Anonymous

    you must be confusing me with gs! all i do here is defend miley and make sure to point out all selena copying and show double standars on what selena fans do and say! if that makes me a hater then let it be but am certainly not as hateful and as dirty as selena fans are to miley!

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    To Selena Gomez,

    As Mimi sits behind her computer screen watching videos of you, reading interviews, staring at still pictures of you making sure she pin points and records every mistake you make. Every step you make, every move you make, every single day, every time she dreams, Mimi is watching you.

  • Anonymous

    mimi said:

    Sorry honey, Miley lost her squeaky clean image when her team decided it was time to leave Disney.

  • Anonymous

    why this a selena post and we are talking about selena, I just love to point out how selena fans have double standard on selena and miley! i will probably will have never gone to selena post if selena fans will had never set foot on miley post to talk shit! so now that selena is getting a glimpse of what miley had to deal for years and selena fans keep bashing miley for is nice to see that everything they critized miley and call her a slut is happen to selena lately! karma is all am saying!

    They do it because they are jealous of Miley’s success. Why YOU do it it’s the question, doesn’t have really sense what uou would want to prove? All it’s said. Miley is more succesful than Selena. End of story. Why do you keep making her relevant and taling about everything Gomez does?!

  • mimi

    why this a selena post and we are talking about selena, I just love to point out how selena fans have double standard on selena and miley! i will probably will have never gone to selena post if selena fans will had never set foot on miley post to talk shit! so now that selena is getting a glimpse of what miley had to deal for years and selena fans keep bashing miley for is nice to see that everything they critized miley and call her a slut is happen to selena lately! karma is all am saying!
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    an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind
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    sometimes people need to point it out when it happens to them to understand the unfairness, so people are stupid and you need proof to understand thing such as selena fans

  • Anonymous

    Feb 17, 2012 @ 09:44 pm
    Anonymous said:

    you must be confusing me with gs! all i do here is defend miley and make sure to point out all selena copying and show double standars on what selena fans do and say! if that makes me a hater then let it be but am certainly not as hateful and as dirty as selena fans are to miley!

    —–
    To Selena Gomez,

    As Mimi sits behind her computer screen watching videos of you, reading interviews, staring at still pictures of you making sure she pin points and records every mistake you make. Every step you make, every move you make, every single day, every time she dreams, Mimi is watching you.

    OMG that is so good. HAHA Selena’s biggest fan is actually Mimi. I bet she even buys all her movies and music so she can see what parts she can use here.

  • l?veislouder

    To Selena Gomez,

    As Mimi sits behind her computer screen watching videos of you, reading interviews, staring at still pictures of you making sure she pin points and records every mistake you make. Every step you make, every move you make, every single day, every time she dreams, Mimi is watching you.
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    definitely starting singing “I’ll Be Watching You” after reading that lmao.

  • mimi

    why this a selena post and we are talking about selena, I just love to point out how selena fans have double standard on selena and miley! i will probably will have never gone to selena post if selena fans will had never set foot on miley post to talk shit! so now that selena is getting a glimpse of what miley had to deal for years and selena fans keep bashing miley for is nice to see that everything they critized miley and call her a slut is happen to selena lately! karma is all am saying!

    They do it because they are jealous of Miley’s success. Why YOU do it it’s the question, doesn’t have really sense what uou would want to prove? All it’s said. Miley is more succesful than Selena. End of story. Why do you keep making her relevant and taling about everything Gomez does?!
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    I don’t know if you weere here a couple years ago but miley got a lot of hate from selena fans a lot! what i do or say is nothing compared to what they did to miley in all media outlets! they are horrible people and well am sick of them! until they don’t stop it will be an eye for an eye!! and i will point out every selena double standard on miley!!! and everything she copying until selena fans stop harrasing miley!

  • Anonymous

    Picturing Mimi right now with a big shovel trying to dig her way out, but always going deeper into stupidity.

  • Anonymous

    you must be confusing me with gs! all i do here is defend miley and make sure to point out all selena copying and show double standars on what selena fans do and say! if that makes me a hater then let it be but am certainly not as hateful and as dirty as selena fans are to miley!

    —–
    To Selena Gomez,

    As Mimi sits behind her computer screen watching videos of you, reading interviews, staring at still pictures of you making sure she pin points and records every mistake you make. Every step you make, every move you make, every single day, every time she dreams, Mimi is watching you.

    OMG that is so good. HAHA Selena’s biggest fan is actually Mimi. I bet she even buys all her movies and music so she can see what parts she can use here.
    —-
    Mimi sitting on her couch with pen and a 500 page notebook, making sure she covers every page with hate filled ink.
    LOL

  • l?veislouder

    Not everybody wears thong. I hate them. I haven’t seen her wear any either. She’s been wearing fully covered panties most of the time. She’s probably wearing a bikini panty because she knows she’ll eventually get wet and she’s not shy to show it. If it’s a panty she’ll probably be more careful. You said it yourself, it’s a bikini panty. Lol!
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    both under-the-dress shots I’ve seen of Selena, she’s been wearing a thong.
    and uh, when did I say it was a bikini bottom? what is with people putting words in my mouth to make their points? you can’t stick with a real defense, with facts? guess not.

  • mimi

    anyway goodnight to you all! nice chatting with all of you! got to go movie with boyfriend sorry can’t stay to chat! i will come back tomorrow :-)

  • Anonymous

    definitely starting singing “I’ll Be Watching You” after reading that lmao.
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    *singing* Every move you make, Mimi is watching youuuuuuu

  • Anonymous

    Feb 17, 2012 @ 09:52 pm
    mimi said:

    anyway goodnight to you all! nice chatting with all of you! got to go movie with boyfriend sorry can’t stay to chat! i will come back tomorrow :-)

    Wow did the IQ quotient just go up by about 50 points or is it just me?

  • Anonymous

    I don’t know if you weere here a couple years ago but miley got a lot of hate from selena fans a lot! what i do or say is nothing compared to what they did to miley in all media outlets! they are horrible people and well am sick of them! until they don’t stop it will be an eye for an eye!! and i will point out every selena double standard on miley!!! and everything she copying until selena fans stop harrasing miley!

    They will never stop bash Miley gurl. They think it’s the only way to prove Selly is slaying – comment in suckey posts instead of watch their idol’s movies or buy albums. YOU should be samrt enough an stop this shit the SMART people will see how the haters are embarrassing themselves talking shit and floping all the way. If you’re samrt you will stop – picture this if you stop the only clown will be Claudia and her bitches and that just will mae more ppl dislike the SG’s side if that pleases you.

  • l?veislouder

    anyway goodnight to you all! nice chatting with all of you! got to go movie with boyfriend sorry can’t stay to chat! i will come back tomorrow :-)
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    Wow did the IQ quotient just go up by about 50 points or is it just me?
    ————
    that’s the odd thing about mimi, and how I know she’s a different person than Claudia; she can make some really valid points and seem to hold a decent, civilized conversation. yet she chooses to be an overly-obsessed freak. it’s just strange.

  • Unanimous

    Mimi:
    Miley had a squeaky clean image until someone stole her stuff and perez decided to pick on her! people loved miley! you don’t know what selena does behind close doors as far as we know she could be doing worse than miley but they watch her pretty close for thing not to get leaked because they learn from what happen to miley they are more careful all the thing that happen to miley, selena pr team is trying to avoid, but selena has done worst in the sense she only been getting a lot of attention for a year and because miley step back for a year to do charity selena hasn’t had any competition, so people stared looking at her and with the small attention she getting, she has gotten caught in hotel with her boyfriend, her bare ass on camera, tight cleavage open, and miley booty pants, and no bra pictures, no panties picture, her boyfriend touching her breast and her ass in public showing her vagina and pubic hair to the list, and her kissing friend like miley got a bad rep for doing that, and performing in tight and outfits like miley and if this only been a year of selena getting some attention imagen if she will have gotten this attention like miley at 13! so selena is not as clean as you all think is just that the media don’t hate on her to point it out like they do to miley!!
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    Selena is just more level headed than Miley. She didn’t choose to be compared with Miley. Remember Miley started the competition thing. Lol! Selena has been doing charity work even since she’s just a kid. She became an ambassador when she’s 17, quite young to be working with charitable institutions anyways. This wasn’t even the first one. Selena got caught with her boyfriend. I don’ think she’s actually hiding it. There’s really not a big deal if they didn’t really have sex. You won’t even know what happen since you are not physically there. Lol! Miley probably had sex with her boyfriend when she was 16, but I don’t even want to speculate that, but it does look obvious. I haven’t seen Selena out without any panty. I know you could wear a certain kind of panty which you can buy from Victoria Secret and doesn’t leave any mark that you are wearing one. Touching breast and ass are quite normal or you wouldn’t have a natural relationship. It would be so awkward if you are not even comfortable with each other. Miley has done the worst and I don’t think I need to repeat it again.

  • Unanimous

    Anonymous said:
    I don’t know if you weere here a couple years ago but miley got a lot of hate from selena fans a lot! what i do or say is nothing compared to what they did to miley in all media outlets! they are horrible people and well am sick of them! until they don’t stop it will be an eye for an eye!! and i will point out every selena double standard on miley!!! and everything she copying until selena fans stop harrasing miley!
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    I was actually observing the last 2 years too, but all I have seen was Miley’s fans bashing Selena and the Selena fans fighting back.
    I think the point here is–if you are not a fan don’t even go to the post to criticize because that’s cyberbullying. If you’re just going to bash the person–you don’t have any ground to stay there–that’s really very disrespectful. People have different opinions, but to each its own. Since it’s not your idol just stay away or shut up!

  • Unanimous

    l?veislouder said:
    Not everybody wears thong. I hate them. I haven’t seen her wear any either. She’s been wearing fully covered panties most of the time. She’s probably wearing a bikini panty because she knows she’ll eventually get wet and she’s not shy to show it. If it’s a panty she’ll probably be more careful. You said it yourself, it’s a bikini panty. Lol!
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    both under-the-dress shots I’ve seen of Selena, she’s been wearing a thong.
    and uh, when did I say it was a bikini bottom? what is with people putting words in my mouth to make their points? you can’t stick with a real defense, with facts? guess not.
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    I am sorry! I guess, I need to be corrected. You said she maybe wearing a bikini bottom, but you speculated that she’s not! Lol!

  • justthat

    yeah, damn right:))

  • mimi

    And having sex it’s bad? right? C’mon they’re adults and no one should be messing with their sex life what they do in bad it’s their bussiness mimi get a life and stop thinking throught your vajayjay
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    The reason I say vajaja it was because before if you said the name they will not post the comment and you couldn’t post i will think you will know that! so i say vajaja instead of the other word!

    i have a life but when am bored i love to see what going on with miley and jb!

  • mimi

    you know if you were 19 you will had understood by know what am trying to say or you are very slow! am excited to have PROOF MY POINT THAT IT CAN HAPPEN TO ANYONE!!!!! should i explained in more depth or detail?
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    and all I said was that you were excited. and here you are, just proving my point over and over again.
    thank you, but we get it. you’re excited. goodbye now
    —-
    ‘still not getting the point are you slow? honestly you just repeated the samething without even thinking what you are saying! am not denying am excited is you who are twisting your own words on what is that am excited about honey!

  • Anonymous

    If you hold hands with a person you like YOU ARE DEFINITELY HAVING SEX!
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    Feb 17, 2012 @ 09:25 pm
    l?veislouder said:

    http : //i956 . photobucket . com/albums/ae46/gleefan1919/obviously . gif
    ~

  • Anonymous

    i have a life but when am bored i love to see what going on with miley and jb!

    I never said you don’t have a life mimi :/
    And you should stick with that and stop to use the words “selena gomez” for a friggin second

  • mimi

    Oh MY FUCKING GOD, did you really just say you have more knowledge than someone who clearly has more eduction than you probably ever will have?
    You keep making yourself look like an IDIOT over and over and over. GO READ A BOOK
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    TRUST ME! i have more education than you! and more experience and just like you don’t go clearing your grammar or your spelling I do the same here! this is my freedom to write however i want! but honestly i truly have more experience than you in education and sex trust me! I don’t say everything! lol
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    Wait are you telling me that you are an old man posing as a young kid on a gossip site for young people? What you just said has shed new light. AS far as education goes, knowing stuff and understanding it are two very different things. Your posts do not show much intelligence, just a whole lot of hate
    —-
    you must be confusing me with gs! all i do here is defend miley and make sure to point out all selena copying and show double standars on what selena fans do and say! if that makes me a hater then let it be but am certainly not as hateful and as dirty as selena fans are to miley!

  • l?veislouder

    I have met Selena twice, once at a meet and greet and the other just in the street in Toronto, and both times she was unbelievably approachable and sweet. As to the behind closed doors thing, if it is private why not keep it private? Yes she has a career that has been built on a squeaky clean image and to me that is one way to go. All I know is that it has gotten her pretty far.
    ——————————–
    if she’s not a squeaky clean person all around, then that would be a lie to me, and be reason to not like this girl so much.
    and you met Selena under public circumstances, where she will undoubtedly be sweet. I will be meeting her behind closed doors, and she’ll only be there because it’s Justin I’ll actually be meeting, not her. I’ll see how she reacts when she sees I’m more there for talking to her boyfriend, not her.

    and I hate when people are like “this celebrity is nice” “this one is an asshole.” yes, people have certain traits that can describe them, but that doesn’t mean a nice person can’t have a bad day, or an asshole can’t feel generous one day.
    one situation does not make a person’s whole being.

  • Anonymous

    STUPIDFUCKINGMORON
    Definiton… See Mimi.

  • mimi

    have a life but when am bored i love to see what going on with miley and jb!

    I never said you don’t have a life mimi :/
    And you should stick with that and stop to use the words “selena gomez” for a friggin second
    —-
    why this a selena post and we are talking about selena, I just love to point out how selena fans have double standard on selena and miley! i will probably will have never gone to selena post if selena fans will had never set foot on miley post to talk shit! so now that selena is getting a glimpse of what miley had to deal for years and selena fans keep bashing miley for is nice to see that everything they critized miley and call her a slut is happen to selena lately! karma is all am saying!

  • Anonymous

    Fuck Miley Cyrus that talent-less slut.

  • Anonymous

    Fuck Miley Cyrus that talent-less slut.

  • BrokenArrow

    Anonymous said:

    i fucken hate Miley Cyrus and her stupid fans that keep defending her no matter how bug of a bitch she is. Ughh she disgusts me. Her pictures of her in liam’s bday licking that dick shaped cake is horrifyingly cheap. After those pictures i lost all respect for her sorry farmers ass.

    You don’t seem to be far from disgusting, like you think Miley is tho.

  • l?veislouder

    Feb 18, 2012 @ 08:26 am
    xAskTaylorx said:
    CONFUSED said:
    WTH is a Psyche major doing, A) arguing with kids and B) Stanning for a person that could probably use a good psychologist? Couldn’t get a job?

    ———————

    LMAO!!! Bravo! XD
    ———–
    clearly, the both of you are off your nuts. when you are a psych major, that means you are still in school. so obviously, no, I cannot get a job because I don’t have my degree yet. idiots.

  • Anonymous

    selena smokes weed why am not surprise i Knew the reason why she seems so fake! she fake fake fake!

  • mimi

    Eww mimi stop looking at Selena’s private part.
    You’re just as disgusting as Claudia waiting to watch Miley’s nipples. lol
    =========
    They’re both peeping tom. I’m sure they get some sort of pleasure out of hating on Miley and Selena
    —-
    IF am a peeping tom so are all of you because you are all looking at it as well! and you on top weren’t you posting miley vagina pictures so you must be obsessed peeping on her because you seem to have that in save!!! at least I proof a point but you had the pictures saved!

  • mimi

    hahahaha didn’t i tell you gs that anyone can take a photograph of private parts here honey what you going to call selena now that we see her vajaja at least miley shaved and we can see selena black hairy vajaja! take your spit you threw on miley and swallowed!!! that spit must taste good honey since it felt flat in your face boooyaaaa! splat!!!

    http://oceanup.com/photogallery?nid=68106&fid=473146

    Eww mimi stop looking at Selena’s private part.
    You’re just as disgusting as Claudia waiting to watch Miley’s nipples. lol
    =====
    I love how you like to act like you are so rightgeous when you were the one who went out of her way to post miley vagina pictures so i guess you are digusting too, at least am posting something about the post and making a point to selena fans about how they put miley down when someone photograph her they called a slut and a whore but now that the same happen to selena they are quiet like rabbits! what happen to the slut comments and whore comment on selena now that we seeing her black birdie vajaja eh!! you went out of your way to keep on embarrasing miley by posting those pictures of her vagina and if i were you i wouldn’t even talk!!!

  • mimi

    whod s psyche major? loveislouder? mimi
    —-
    am doing a major in forensic pathology but some of the classes that are required do have psychology but I think she talking about loveislouder.

    I come here not to think about homework and assingment something I don’t have much to think about and just let loose and have fun talking!

  • BrokenArrow

    Eww mimi stop looking at Selena’s private part.
    You’re just as disgusting as Claudia waiting to watch Miley’s nipples. lol
    =====
    I love how you like to act like you are so rightgeous when you were the one who went out of her way to post miley vagina pictures so i guess you are digusting too, at least am posting something about the post and making a point to selena fans about how they put miley down when someone photograph her they called a slut and a whore but now that the same happen to selena they are quiet like rabbits! what happen to the slut comments and whore comment on selena now that we seeing her black birdie vajaja eh!! you went out of your way to keep on embarrasing miley by posting those pictures of her vagina and if i were you i wouldn’t even talk!!!

    ——

    Right, cause I’m looking at the pictures right at their private parts trying to find things like for example if she has pubic hair or not.
    I didnt post the Miley vaign.a pictures here fyi.
    I’m not the one who blamed Selena because of someone took a picture of her ass cause i was mad cause Miley didnt care about flashing her vagina wearing a leotard several times that barely covered her parts so i blamed the papz to save Miley’s ass even though the lame excuses didnt make anything better. Oh, that was you.

  • mimi

    Eww mimi stop looking at Selena’s private part.
    You’re just as disgusting as Claudia waiting to watch Miley’s nipples. lol
    =====
    I love how you like to act like you are so righteous when you were the one who went out of her way to post miley vagina pictures so i guess you are disgusting too, at least am posting something about the post and making a point to selena fans about how they put miley down when someone photograph her they called a slut and a whore but now that the same happen to selena they are quiet like rabbits! what happen to the slut comments and whore comment on selena now that we seeing her black birdie vajayjay eh!! you went out of your way to keep on embarrassing miley by posting those pictures of her vagina and if i were you i wouldn’t even talk!!!

    ——

    Right, cause I’m looking at the pictures right at their private parts trying to find things like for example if she has pubic hair or not.
    I didn’t post the Miley vaign.a pictures here fyi.
    I’m not the one who blamed Selena because of someone took a picture of her ass cause i was mad cause Miley didn’t care about flashing her vagina wearing a leotard with that barely covered her parts. Oh, that was you
    —-
    YOU! posted a miley pictures do I have to tell you which post! Miley was no flashing her vajayjay miley was performing a dance a professionally choreograph dance not like selena here who knew they were papz and decided to model that way! miley had a mishap am sure she didn’t want her business out in the open, her outfit is designed by a designer and her dance are professionally choreograph unlike selena who showing herself and flashing the papz on purpose! honestly who flashes papz and she knew they were there she saw them when they got to the beach! so if am bad you are worse because you actually search for the pictures unlike me who pictures are right here on the post!

    and you were saying that selena was more careful is THIS careful NOPE! if she didn’t get more stuff out there is because nobody follow her and now that she been follow we have seen a lot more than miley entired career even now dirty things are coming out like selena smoking weed etc! and her stealing the guy demi like and her stealing miley boyfriend come on she only thinks about her needs and she only thinks about her getting ahead not caring who she hurt and she obviosly don’t care about friendship either because if she decided to go for the guy over demi and miley what that says about her! she not as clean as all her fans thinks!

  • BrokenArrow

    YOU! posted a miley pictures do I have to tell you which post! Miley was no flashing her vajayjay miley was performing a dance a professionally choreograph dance not like selena here who knew they were papz and decided to model that way! miley had a misshap am sure she didn’t want her business out in the open, her outfit is designed by a designer and her dance are professionally cheroagraph unlike selena who showing herself and flashing the papz on purpose! honestly who flashes papz and she knew they were there she saw them when they got to the beach! so if am bad you are worse becaue you actually search for the pictures unlike me who pictures are right here on the post!

    I didn’t post the Miley vaign.a pictures here, with here i said this post, i didnt say i didnt post the pictures.
    You say Selena knew the papz were there, well, Miley knew papz where at the show taking pictures and stuff and it wasn’t part of the choreography to lift up her leg it was a random move and in rock in rio she wasnt choreographed cause she didnt dance at all, she was just walking and jumping not dancing.
    And if me or people post Miley pictures, is because it seems you forgot that since you attack Selena when the same situation happened to Miley before.

  • Anonymous

    ew

  • Anonymous

    Stop it BrokenArrow.

  • BrokenArrow

    Stop it BrokenArrow.

    stop what?

  • BrokenArrow

    and you were saying that selena was more careful is THIS careful NOPE! if she didn’t get more stuff out there is because nobody follow her and now that she been follow we have seen a lot more than miley entired career even now dirty things are coming out like selena smoking weed etc!

    I said she was more carefull on STAGE, cause that time i was talking about stage outfits.
    I think we’ve seen about Selena just as much we’ve seen Miley.
    lol ‘dirty things’ you didn’t call dirty things when Miley smoked salvia, wich is a drug also.

  • Anonymous

    i fucken hate Miley Cyrus and her stupid fans that keep defending her no matter how bug of a bitch she is. Ughh she disgusts me. Her pictures of her in liam’s bday licking that dick shaped cake is horrifyingly cheap. After those pictures i lost all respect for her sorry farmers ass.

  • Anonymous

    To be honest though if you were as into Selena as you are with Miley, you would probably say the same thing about GS. Not hating just if you are enamored by a certain person easy conversation about them is more likely.

  • l?veislouder

    http://oceanup.com/photogallery?nid=68106&fid=473121
    it’s kind of sad that he has to hold Selena’s jacket for her >.<

  • Anonymous

    For what he is getting paid, complete with massive amounts of free travel, is it really that bad to hold a jacket? :)

  • Unanimous

    l?veislouder said:
    http://oceanup.com/photogallery?nid=68106&fid=473121
    it’s kind of sad that he has to hold Selena’s jacket for her >.< ——– I don’t think it’s that bad. There’s such thing as to be on assistance for somebody. I would help carry something even if I am a stranger. There’s a need for the help because she’s carrying, playing or holding a baby.

  • l?veislouder

    For what he is getting paid, complete with massive amounts of free travel, is it really that bad to hold a jacket? :)
    —————-
    he’s my mom’s ex-boyfriend. it’s sad for me personally to see him on a beach, in a suit, holding a teenage girl’s denim jacket. I respect his job as a bodyguard and protecting who he’s assigned to, but bodyguards are just that; bodyguards, not personal assistants, especially to those who are not even paying him. he just happens to be a nice guy.

  • Anonymous

    Feb 17, 2012 @ 10:09 pm
    l?veislouder said:

    So if you know Moshe personally then you must really know more than you are telling.
    Like from your last statement, it sounds like he has said that Selena makes demands on him. That surprises me though because there have been many pics where he is with her and he looks like he likes her as a person.

  • Anonymous
  • Unanimous

    Anonymous said:
    http://oceanup.com/photogallery?nid=68106&fid=473256
    SELENA STOP CALLING THE PAPZ!
    ——–
    Such a pathetic hater! Lol!

  • Anonymous

    When stupid cunts harass them all day at an amusement park, I think they are entitled to get pissed. The cameramen here could be 500 feet away hiding.

    But that wasn’t the first time he cussed at paps. Remember when Selena got a fat lip on Justin’s birthday and when the paps wouldn’t move out of the way when Justin was trying to leave he flicked them off and then on Twitter later apologized for his actions. When he was at Disneyland he got so pissed off, but when he’s on the beach knowing that his siblings are leaving the next day he doesn’t yell at paps for privacy. And some pics you can see them not actually stare at the camera directly but look in the direction and THEY DON’T DO ANYTHING!

  • Anonymous

    But that wasn’t the first time he cussed at paps. Remember when Selena got a fat lip on Justin’s birthday and when the paps wouldn’t move out of the way when Justin was trying to leave he flicked them off and then on Twitter later apologized for his actions. When he was at Disneyland he got so pissed off, but when he’s on the beach knowing that his siblings are leaving the next day he doesn’t yell at paps for privacy. And some pics you can see them not actually stare at the camera directly but look in the direction and THEY DON’T DO ANYTHING!

    When someone feels threatened they react. Like I said these cameramen could be 500 feet away. At Dland the girls were calling Jazzy and Jaxon names and harassing them for a while before the video was taken. At the party last year the Paps were right in their faces and one even somewhat pushed Selena. I would have reacted exactly the same way.

  • l?veislouder

    So if you know Moshe personally then you must really know more than you are telling.
    Like from your last statement, it sounds like he has said that Selena makes demands on him. That surprises me though because there have been many pics where he is with her and he looks like he likes her as a person.
    ——————————-
    never said that. it’s very bad to assume.
    I’m very surprised you know his name though. I’ve seen most people either disregard him, or refer to him as “White Kenny”

  • Anonymous

    He was with them in Toronto and he was sweet. Yes I know his name.:) My assumptions were partly based on your comments tonight. You said you have behind door stuff. So was I really wrong to assume? :\

  • lovemestealmeawayy

    lol these photos would be normal..except for the guy with them wearing the suit..hahaha looks soo odd..

  • Unanimous

    Anonymous said:
    selena is such a bitch behind the scenes. poor justin doesnt really have a lot of friends that he can trust, so he clings to selena because even though she may have a nasty attitude to people who dont matter, she has won his trust. but remember, “The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good.”

    people who saw them just the other day said that while justin was perfectly sweet and kind, all selena did was roll her eyes. poor justin. i hope when he gets older he can find some truly good people to welcome into his life. god bless him.
    ——–
    Hey! How come you’re the only person who’s hearing all these bad news! Oh! I get it! Everybody in your group or around you hated Selena! No wonder. Lol! Have you ever heard the law of attraction? You expected all of these, so naturally you’ll be dealing with more haters more than anybody else! Lol!

  • Anonymous

    selena is such a bitch behind the scenes. poor justin doesnt really have a lot of friends that he can trust, so he clings to selena because even though she may have a nasty attitude to people who dont matter, she has won his trust. but remember, “The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good.”

    people who saw them just the other day said that while justin was perfectly sweet and kind, all selena did was roll her eyes. poor justin. i hope when he gets older he can find some truly good people to welcome into his life. god bless him.

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  • l?veislouder

    He was with them in Toronto and he was sweet. Yes I know his name.:) My assumptions were partly based on your comments tonight. You said you have behind door stuff. So was I really wrong to assume? :\
    —————————-
    yeah, he’s a really sweet guy. so loving… except when you’re messing with the Biebs lol.
    but no, my “behind closed doors” comment was solely about Selena, nothing to do with Moshe. sorry for the confusion.

  • Anonymous

    Feb 17, 2012 @ 10:41 pm
    l?veislouder said:
    yeah, he’s a really sweet guy. so loving… except when you’re messing with the Biebs lol.
    but no, my “behind closed doors” comment was solely about Selena, nothing to do with Moshe. sorry for the confusion.

    Well, I hope you are judging with an open mind then because like someone said earlier, anyone can have a bad day. To me it just stands to reason that if so many people that have been in close and even long term contact with Selena, never have bad things to say about her.
    Someone that is as mean and evil as so many on here seem to portray her to be, would she really be as loved as she is in such a cut throat business?

  • l?veislouder

    I am sorry! I guess, I need to be corrected. You said she maybe wearing a bikini bottom, but you speculated that she’s not! Lol!
    ————————
    these are times where a sarcasm font would really come in handy. no, I was just joking. that’s definitely a thong she’s wearing, especially when you look at the other picture from another, more direct, angle. it’s a thong.

  • l?veislouder

    Well, I hope you are judging with an open mind then because like someone said earlier, anyone can have a bad day. To me it just stands to reason that if so many people that have been in close and even long term contact with Selena, never have bad things to say about her.
    Someone that is as mean and evil as so many on here seem to portray her to be, would she really be as loved as she is in such a cut throat business?
    ———————-
    yeah, that was me lol. no, my “inside information” doesn’t have anything to do with her attitude. it’s the fact that she likes to indulge in dates with Mary Jane, but it’s never gotten out. if it did, that would definitely crash-and-burn her image like no other, because she makes it seem as though she’s such a good girl that does no wrong; a weed scandal would kill her.

  • crazylady

    Someone that is as mean and evil as so many on here seem to portray her to be, would she really be as loved as she is in such a cut throat business?

    agree, I don’t know why people say she’s secretly a bitch. if she was we would have gotten significant proof by now

  • crazylady

    it’s the fact that she likes to indulge in dates with Mary Jane, but it’s never gotten out. if it did, that would definitely crash-and-burn her image like no other, because she makes it seem as though she’s such a good girl that does no wrong; a weed scandal would kill her.

    o O yeah it probly would. it wouldn’t make me dislike her but I would look at her in a very different way and side-eying her because I wouldn’t understand what reason she would have to do that. I mean Demi had her bullying and her bulimia but Selena doesn’t have any of those problems so why do it?

  • Anonymous

    Feb 17, 2012 @ 10:52 pm
    l?veislouder said:

    Well, I hope you are judging with an open mind then because like someone said earlier, anyone can have a bad day. To me it just stands to reason that if so many people that have been in close and even long term contact with Selena, never have bad things to say about her.
    Someone that is as mean and evil as so many on here seem to portray her to be, would she really be as loved as she is in such a cut throat business?
    ———————-
    yeah, that was me lol. no, my “inside information” doesn’t have anything to do with her attitude. it’s the fact that she likes to indulge in dates with Mary Jane, but it’s never gotten out. if it did, that would definitely crash-and-burn her image like no other, because she makes it seem as though she’s such a good girl that does no wrong; a weed scandal would kill her.
    ———————————-
    I beg to differ, The fact that she has skeletons in her closet, is something we all know. The fact that she stayed true to her fans in that she showed them a good way to live is commendable in my eyes. Keeping her private life private for her fans and career is hard to do but very smart. Weed is not that terrible for what it’s worth. I would be more surprised if she really has not dabbled, I am sure that she drinks too, but if you go to almost anywhere outside of the US that’s normal.
    I think that now that she is almost 20 if things like that come out, it may hurt with some fans but most would understand and the industry doesn’t really frown on Weed either.

  • crazylady

    I beg to differ, The fact that she has skeletons in her closet, is something we all know.

    wait how does everyone know about this weed thing but me? I guess I don’t pay attention to Selena as much as I think..now that I think about it I have mostly payed attention to her when it was Jonas related

    Keeping her private life private for her fans and career is hard to do but very smart.

    agree with this

    Weed is not that terrible for what it’s worth

    maybe but it would depend on what you mean by “not that terrible”

    I would be more surprised if she really has not dabbled,

    why do you say that?

  • Anonymous

    Something like that would actually probably help her adult career more than anything. Even parents would be glad she kept it private. Sure prudes would be upset but Come ion it’s 2012. I would really look forward to her new movie rolls more knowing there is a naughty side, now that she’s 20.

  • crazylady

    Something like that would actually probably help her adult career more than anything. Even parents would be glad she kept it private.

    I meant the fact that she did the weed not the fact she made it private

  • l?veislouder

    o O yeah it probly would. it wouldn’t make me dislike her but I would look at her in a very different way and side-eying her because I wouldn’t understand what reason she would have to do that. I mean Demi had her bullying and her bulimia but Selena doesn’t have any of those problems so why do it?
    ———–
    no reason. she does it just to do it.

    and some fans may not find it a big deal, she may gain fans because of it, but I’m sure the parents would not be happy about it, and regardless of Selena trying to break away from her younger fan base and be taken seriously, she’s always going to be that good girl from Disney, the one parents could count on. weed may not be so frowned upon in the industry like harder drugs, but parents won’t view it like that.

  • Anonymous

    Weed if not used to excess does not hamper your abilities as much as Alcohol and booze is legal. Weed for most makes them mellow and easy going. Oh yeah and hungry.:) It is not addictive like booze or harder drugs. Oh and by the way this is only Loveislouder’s account so who knows.:)

  • crazylady

    I would really look forward to her new movie rolls more knowing there is a naughty side, now that she’s 20.

    movie sounds way too morbid for my tastes but I respect her for getting into more adult roles. some Disney stars can never seem to shake that squeaky clean persona (i.e. Joe Jonas did his solo album and shit hit the fan. Nick got an older woman…again shit hit the fan) hopefully she can too

  • l?veislouder

    Weed if not used to excess does not hamper your abilities as much as Alcohol and booze is legal. Weed for most makes them mellow and easy going. Oh yeah and hungry.:) It is not addictive like booze or harder drugs. Oh and by the way this is only Loveislouder’s account so who knows.:)
    —————————-
    uhh, what?

  • crazylady

    Weed if not used to excess does not hamper your abilities as much as Alcohol and booze is legal. Weed for most makes them mellow and easy going. Oh yeah and hungry.:) It is not addictive like booze or harder drugs. Oh and by the way this is only Loveislouder’s account so who knows.:)

    well I know someone who does weed and his mind seems messed up from it. alcohol on the other hand…I know plenty of people who have drank it and not get addicted.
    and the weed smokers’ excuse annoys me so bad: “Im an ahole without it” if you’re a bad person without a drug then there’s something wrong with you.
    oh and don’t even get me started on the smell. you might as well be smoking dog shit..no wait even dog shit smells better and that’s saying something
    for medical reasons, it’s fine because I realize there is no other option (although I wouldn’t do it, I’d demand the doctor give me another option. good thing I’m not in that position) but any other reason is lame.

  • Anonymous

    Happy family.

  • l?veislouder

    I do think you’re talking sense now and I really respect you for that. Lol! But, I still don’t understand why you would think that Selena is only after the “it” boy. It does seems like that’s what you think??!!?!
    —————–
    it seems like that’s the only type of guy she’ll date. the Jonas Brothers were at the top of their game in 2008 when she dated Nick; Twilight was huge in 2009 when she dated Taylor; and Justin’s year was 2010 when she got with him. Selena brought this apparent reputation up on herself.

  • crazylady

    and yes before you ask (because someone did ask me before) I don’t believe in medication either. take it when you have to but for anxiety and stuff like that no way.
    if you’re depressed/anxious for no reason take it but if you know the reason then fix the situation. when I went to a psychiatrist he gave me Zoloft and I hated it. I even try to avoid aspirin for headaches when I can.

  • Anonymous

    Which movie? 13 reasons Why is the only one that is kind of morbid. But has a serious and good message. Spring Breakers sounds like it could be hilarious, sad, scary but good. The Sky is Everywhere is an excellent story with laughs and romance. Hotel Transylvania with Adam Sandler has definite potential. Hot Mess is funny too, like Mean girls sort of.

  • Anonymous

    I just meant you are the one who brought it up.

  • Anonymous

    Weed if not used to excess does not hamper your abilities as much as Alcohol and booze is legal. Weed for most makes them mellow and easy going. Oh yeah and hungry.:) It is not addictive like booze or harder drugs. Oh and by the way this is only Loveislouder’s account so who knows.:)

    well I know someone who does weed and his mind seems messed up from it. alcohol on the other hand…I know plenty of people who have drank it and not get addicted.
    and the weed smokers’ excuse annoys me so bad: “Im an ahole without it” if you’re a bad person without a drug then there’s something wrong with you.
    oh and don’t even get me started on the smell. you might as well be smoking dog shit..no wait even dog shit smells better and that’s saying something
    for medical reasons, it’s fine because I realize there is no other option (although I wouldn’t do it, I’d demand the doctor give me another option. good thing I’m not in that position) but any other reason is lame.
    ——–

    So you think smocking in general is lame?. It is your opinion…

  • crazylady

    Which movie? 13 reasons Why is the only one that is kind of morbid. But has a serious and good message.

    oh yeah that was the movie I was thinking of.

    Spring Breakers sounds like it could be hilarious, sad, scary but good.

    I might watch that one. comedies are my genre.

    The Sky is Everywhere is an excellent story with laughs and romance.

    have to check that one out..I’m not sure if I would like just any romantic comedy.

    Hotel Transylvania with Adam Sandler has definite potential.

    never heard of it but I love Adam Sandler so far

    Hot Mess is funny too, like Mean girls sort of.

    I don’t know what that is but I hope it’s not a knock off of Mean Girls.

  • l?veislouder

    Anonymous said:

    I just meant you are the one who brought it up.
    ————–
    I brought it up because it pertains to the reason why I’m not too fond of Selena.

  • Anonymous

    Why does everyone still think this is for PR?
    They’ve been together for, what, a year?

  • Anonymous

    Feb 17, 2012 @ 11:17 pm
    l?veislouder said:
    it seems like that’s the only type of guy she’ll date. the Jonas Brothers were at the top of their game in 2008 when she dated Nick; Twilight was huge in 2009 when she dated Taylor; and Justin’s year was 2010 when she got with him. Selena brought this apparent reputation up on herself.
    Wait but if the guy is liked by many then why is it wrong for her to like them? The only real difference is that they seem to like her back. By the way Taylor and Selena never were a couple. They went to a few movies while they were in BC. Taylor is from there so he was a good person to show her around. Selena set Taylor up with Taylor. That was why Demi was so upset. Demi liked Lautner. Demi had already alienated Selena at that point though.

  • crazylady

    So you think smocking in general is lame?.

    yes because it is addictive and my father used to smoke with me in the room..could not stand breathing that (well those were cigs but same difference to me)
    also if it’s not solely addiction, people do weed to ease their pain or they do it to fix their personality. that dog shit does not help anything, it just makes it worse. you wanna know why? because once you’re off it you feel worse than before and if you are on it, you’re messed up in the head so it’s a lose lose situation

  • Anonymous

    Right but like I said you were the one who knows of this. I did not know for sure but suspected. No hate.:)

  • crazylady

    oh also I’ve breathed in weed too and it literally made me feel nauseous.

    Wait but if the guy is liked by many then why is it wrong for her to like them?

    but the thing is I don’t think she even liked them (I really don’t know what she could possibly see in Bieber) the only one she showed true feelings for was Nick.

  • Anonymous

    loveislouder, thats cute.. making up a rumor about selena smoking pot, I would believe it if she displayed any signs of it, which she doesnt.Too bad that I have friends who actually have worked on some of her projects and I know for a fact that .. you are lying. She isnt a pothead like miley.

  • crazylady

    btw my mom feels the same way as I do about the drugs. thankfully she came from a family that did none (lucky her I had to be stuck with a father who did the cancer stick -.-)

  • Anonymous

    I have to ring in here. Smoking weed if not used to excess is less harmful than alcohol. People use it for the same reason they drink. The difference is Alcohol makes a lot of people aggressive where as only some are that way on weed. I have been around both situations and fights break out way more often with alcohol.

  • Anonymous

    Scooter introduced them way back in 2009. He liked her and Scooter thought she could help him transition into the fame, because she has had it most of her life. The amount of time they spent together is what made her like him. She even says she feels she can be herself with him and she seems to do just that. Again we don’t know them well enough to really know if they are sweet or not out of the public eye, but with Selena I can’t help but think she just is. Way more positive things are known than negative.. I mean if dating the IT guy is her only flaw then Yeah…. Need I say more?

  • Anonymous

    yes because it is addictive and my father used to smoke with me in the room..could not stand breathing that (well those were cigs but same difference to me)
    also if it’s not solely addiction, people do weed to ease their pain or they do it to fix their personality. that dog shit does not help anything, it just makes it worse. you wanna know why? because once you’re off it you feel worse than before and if you are on it, you’re messed up in the head so it’s a lose lose situation
    ====
    But not everybody reacts the same way to weed. If people want to smoke, they can smoke. If others don’t, they wont. But people have died smoking ciggyz. I have never heard of a death caused by marijuana…..weed> cigs.

  • crazylady

    People use it for the same reason they drink.

    not necessarily, I mean some people drink to ease pain and that’s stupid but people sometimes drink for fun. weed is moreso used as just a pain easer.

    some people don’t act bad with alcohol, I guess some do…I know it does impair your judgement but from what I’ve seen alcohol usually doesn’t make people aggressive and just makes them crazy/flirty. even though it can create bad behavior, it’s one of those drugs that only affect you when you’re using it (yes people can be alcoholics but it’s less frequent than having a relapse with the smoking. if people are alcoholics, it’s not the drink and there’s something else going on with them.)

  • l?veislouder

    Wait but if the guy is liked by many then why is it wrong for her to like them? The only real difference is that they seem to like her back. By the way Taylor and Selena never were a couple. They went to a few movies while they were in BC. Taylor is from there so he was a good person to show her around. Selena set Taylor up with Taylor. That was why Demi was so upset. Demi liked Lautner. Demi had already alienated Selena at that point though.
    —————————
    I’m not saying it’s bad, I’m saying that’s what brings up this apparent reputation she has. if she only dates “it” guys, she’s going to get the reputation of only dating “it” guys, which is what she’s doing. it’s just fact being stated.
    and uh, Taylor is from Grand Rapids, Michigan, which is in the United States, not British Columbia. they dated for a short time while they were both there, filming their respective movies. they were caught too touchy feely in public to be “just friends.”
    Taylor and Taylor got together on their own, without the help of Selena. yes, Demi liked him and was upset with Selena, but she was upset because she felt that Taylor used her to get to Selena, and that Selena went along with it and betrayed her by dating him. that’s what started the whole bitterness and feeling betrayed by a decade-long friend, not Selena actually setting Taylor up with another girl.

  • crazylady

    But not everybody reacts the same way to weed. If people want to smoke, they can smoke. If others don’t, they wont. But people have died smoking ciggyz. I have never heard of a death caused by marijuana…..weed> cigs.

    I think you’re totally missing my point. believe me I hate the cancer sticks too, I am against all drugs (except for a drink here and there and you can drink caffeinated soda if you must although I wouldn’t advise it because I quit that stuff long ago. definitely not dangerous but not healthy either.)
    but I hate weed more because of the smell.

    and yes they can smoke but that doesn’t mean they should

  • Anonymous

    Sorry I meant Taylor had been there for a while and knew it better than Selena. Seriously though I would love to hear where you heard this about Taylor Selena and Demi though.

    Demi being in LA missing Selena became friends with Miley and they even posted Selena’s song behind her back. Head first was the thing that really split them up.

  • Anonymous

    Feb 17, 2012 @ 11:47 pm
    l?veislouder said:

    Wait but if the guy is liked by many then why is it wrong for her to like them? The only real difference is that they seem to like her back. By the way Taylor and Selena never were a couple. They went to a few movies while they were in BC. Taylor is from there so he was a good person to show her around. Selena set Taylor up with Taylor. That was why Demi was so upset. Demi liked Lautner. Demi had already alienated Selena at that point though.
    —————————
    I’m not saying it’s bad, I’m saying that’s what brings up this apparent reputation she has. if she only dates “it” guys, she’s going to get the reputation of only dating “it” guys, which is what she’s doing. it’s just fact being stated.
    and uh, Taylor is from Grand Rapids, Michigan, which is in the United States, not British Columbia. they dated for a short time while they were both there, filming their respective movies. they were caught too touchy feely in public to be “just friends.”
    Taylor and Taylor got together on their own, without the help of Selena. yes, Demi liked him and was upset with Selena, but she was upset because she felt that Taylor used her to get to Selena, and that Selena went along with it and betrayed her by dating him. that’s what started the whole bitterness and feeling betrayed by a decade-long friend, not Selena actually setting Taylor up with another girl.
    Selena has dated guys that were far from the it guy too.
    Kevin Schmidt comes to mind.
    Seriously that’s the problem though everyone gets so hung up on them being the IT guy and not that they like her.

  • lovemestealmeawayy

    lol thats going to be her in five years..

  • Anonymous

    They match!

  • oceanUP

    mrs selena bieber!

  • Unanimous

    l?veislouder said:
    so true I don’t understand why selena fans constantly think selena is at miley level just because selena fuck nick?? that doesn’t give her the talent of miley or the stardom?
    ———————–
    it annoys me so much when you say Selena fucked Nick and Taylor and Justin. I understand your dislike for her, but as there is no proof she had sex with any of them, you have no credibility when using it as a defense as to why Selena is a user. find other things based on facts to use, not cock-made bullshit.
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    I do think you’re talking sense now and I really respect you for that. Lol! But, I still don’t understand why you would think that Selena is only after the “it” boy. It does seems like that’s what you think??!!?!

  • Anonymous

    what a slut she showing her ass and her panties to everyone!

  • lovemestealmeawayy

    i don’t know about you..but i would never make out in front of my parents like that…so awkward

  • Anonymous

    @lovemestealmeawayy,, With the picture you cant really tell if they were making out, maybe it was jsut a sweet little kiss! And in the picture you can see his father had Jaxon in his arms, and they were looking the other way.. For all we know it could have been a quick little kiss.. With pictures its hard to tell what kind of kiss it was.. Now if it was on video, that would be a different story.. lol

  • l?veislouder

    Hmm I don’t see her emulating Miley. She answers questions that are asked and if Nick or an un-named boyfriend caused a lot of hurt then it would make sense. I think everyone is so hung up on her emulating Miley and dating the IT guy and so they immediately go to that. Myself, I think she actually has learned from that other relationship and now takes more charge of her actions. If Hannah and Mikayla never happened on HM I think Selena and Miley would be seen as individuals, not rivals. The thing that bugs the shit out of me with the IT guy thing is, The guy has to like her or it would not work. Doesn;t that make you think maybe , just maybe Selena is not the horrid person so many want us to believe she is? Just a question.
    —————————–
    I’m not saying she’s an evil person, I’m just taking what I observe and analyzing. it’s what I do, and I’m usually spot-on about it.
    you say you don’t see her emulating Miley; you don’t see the similarities in her tour-fashion choices? I could mention getting a husky after Miley did, using Miley’s dancers on her tour, dating Nick Jonas after Miley, but those are such trivial things that are ridiculous to compare. clothing, however, is a constant, not a one-time thing, and it always seems to be inspired by some past outfit of Miley’s. that’s what I can’t deny, no matter how unbiased I try to be.
    also, I don’t think it was the Hannah/Mikayla rivalry that sparked the off-screen rivalry, but the Miley/Mandy parody of Demi/Selena. had Miley never done that, I don’t believe the rivalry between the fans of the girls would be as extreme. would it exist? absolutely. they were the stars of Disney’s top shows at that time, and they’re both girls; of course they would be pinned against each other. but in a sense, Miley created her own media rival by filming that parody. it’s kind of sad, but I don’t think she cares. Miley knows who she is and is confident in herself, and to be honest, I wouldn’t be surprised if she saw it as a relief that Selena has a fame that can rival hers; it would mean less time spent focused on Miley.

  • Anonymous
  • Anonymous

    Hmm I don’t see her emulating Miley. She answers questions that are asked and if Nick or an un-named boyfriend caused a lot of hurt then it would make sense. I think everyone is so hung up on her emulating Miley and dating the IT guy and so they immediately go to that. Myself, I think she actually has learned from that other relationship and now takes more charge of her actions. If Hannah and Mikayla never happened on HM I think Selena and Miley would be seen as individuals, not rivals. The thing that bugs the shit out of me with the IT guy thing is, The guy has to like her or it would not work. Doesn;t that make you think maybe , just maybe Selena is not the horrid person so many want us to believe she is? Just a question
    ——
    Don’t act in denial we all know selena copies miley and i think she likes been compare to her because she keeps on doing it! why will someone want to be compare to her boyfriend ex is beyond me, but I think she enjoys copying miley it has been multiple times not just in cloths but in interviews she has used miley quotes as well as dancers, song writers and even her song who says just like miley hit song who says and even same title you can say what you want but selena is constantly copying miley.

  • Anonymous

    https://twitter.com/#!/search/selena/slideshow/photos?url=https%3A%2F%2Fp.twimg.com%2FAl5N49QCQAAZmYF.jpg

    selena kissing in front of family how disrespectful.get a room.
    ———

  • Anonymous

    the family probably knows about the romance act they put on and knows they have to do it. If they didn’t kiss in front of the family, people would definitely think they were fake.

  • l?veislouder

    Don’t act in denial we all know selena copies miley and i think she likes been compare to her because she keeps on doing it! why will someone want to be compare to her boyfriend ex is beyond me, but I think she enjoys copying miley it has been multiple times not just in cloths but in interviews she has used miley quotes as well as dancers, song writers and even her song who says just like miley hit song who says and even same title you can say what you want but selena is constantly copying miley.
    ————————–
    Miley’s (actually, it’s Hannah’s) song is called “Who Said”; small difference, but it’s there.

  • Anonymous

    THEY NEED TO STOP CALLING THE PAPS

  • Anonymous

    justin goes shopping with selena all the time and he is always buying her thing but he forgot to buy her undies why is she showing her privates?

    http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lzki6v40Bu1rprd4xo1_500.jpg

  • Anonymous

    Don’t act in denial we all know selena copies miley and i think she likes been compare to her because she keeps on doing it! why will someone want to be compare to her boyfriend ex is beyond me, but I think she enjoys copying miley it has been multiple times not just in cloths but in interviews she has used miley quotes as well as dancers, song writers and even her song who says just like miley hit song who says and even same title you can say what you want but selena is constantly copying miley.
    ————————–
    Miley’s (actually, it’s Hannah’s) song is called “Who Said”; small difference, but it’s there
    —–
    Hannah is miley she is who sing the song is one person the only difference is she wears a wig?

  • justthat

    look at them, they seem having a happy time together, how sweet!

  • Anonymous

    Feb 17, 2012 @ 07:50 pm
    l?veislouder said:

    ————————————
    But wait,Miley’s stage attire basically mimics Britney, RiRi, old Maddona. Is Selena really emulating Miley with that or is it just making a spectacle, which is what putting on a show is all about. I agree that the parody vid was pretty major in causing the rivalry and yes there would have been some comparisons just with the shows, but if Mikayla and Hannah were actually really good friends on the show Miley fans would not have been against her from day one. I often wonder if Miley is really as strong as you are saying, I mean she left Twitter because TT’s were being posted saying “MileyShutup” and “OHNOMOREEMOFROMMILEY”. She was clearly reeling back then. Fame is a scary thing.

  • Anonymous

    selena kissing in front of family how disrespectful.get a room
    —-
    yeah but miley is not kissing in front of children or making out that was a peck! and that only her mom if anything nick is the one been disrespectful not miley because that her mom she tell her mom everything.

  • Anonymous

  • l?veislouder

    Hannah is miley she is who sing the song is one person the only difference is she wears a wig?
    —————–
    I was saying the difference is in the title of the songs, not Miley and Hannah.

  • Anonymous

    Feb 17, 2012 @ 08:11 pm
    Anonymous said:

    selena kissing in front of family how disrespectful.get a room
    —-
    yeah but miley is not kissing in front of children or making out that was a peck! and that only her mom if anything nick is the one been disrespectful not miley because that her mom she tell her mom everything.
    ————————————\
    HOLY FU$K it is a FU$KING kiss. People do that all the time. You people are complete idiots.

  • Anonymous

    yeah but miley is not kissing in front of children or making out that was a peck! and that only her mom if anything nick is the one been disrespectful not miley because that her mom she tell her mom everything.
    ====
    Why can’t a couple who love each other show the slightest of their efection in front of children?

  • mimi

    But wait,Miley’s stage attire basically mimics Britney, RiRi, old Maddona. Is Selena really emulating Miley with that or is it just making a spectacle, which is what putting on a show is all about. I agree that the parody vid was pretty major in causing the rivalry and yes there would have been some comparisons just with the shows, but if Mikayla and Hannah were actually really good friends on the show Miley fans would not have been against her from day one. I often wonder if Miley is really as strong as you are saying, I mean she left Twitter because TT’s were being posted saying “MileyShutup” and “OHNOMOREEMOFROMMILEY”. She was clearly reeling back then. Fame is a scary thing
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    In realtity selena is the one who stared the war not miley, miley just came up front because selena came up front she was returning fire to her back! selena is the one who don’t respect what don’t belong to her! she came acting naive to miley and what she wanted it was everything miley had her boyfriend, her stardom, her friends, her directors, song writers and disney on her side instead of miley! selena was bragging about the jonas hurting miley when she was hurt and she brag about it! Honestly I think she the type of girl who shows one face but she a bitch talking crap behind your back and envious of what you have until she gets it and then laught about taken it away from you. I mean let’s be realistic even with bieber selena didn’t like him she was oh god no, he like my little brother as soon as miley stared helping justin get pr by going out to dinner with him as a friend and miley putting justin as jb and coming out on his movie all of a sudden selena has the hot’s for him? with taylor was the same, with jonas, with nick, even taylor, kateperry,vanessa,ashley even rock mafia she just had to work with them too, come on is too obvios what selena does she want to take everything miley has!

  • l?veislouder

    But wait,Miley’s stage attire basically mimics Britney, RiRi, old Maddona. Is Selena really emulating Miley with that or is it just making a spectacle, which is what putting on a show is all about. I agree that the parody vid was pretty major in causing the rivalry and yes there would have been some comparisons just with the shows, but if Mikayla and Hannah were actually really good friends on the show Miley fans would not have been against her from day one. I often wonder if Miley is really as strong as you are saying, I mean she left Twitter because TT’s were being posted saying “MileyShutup” and “OHNOMOREEMOFROMMILEY”. She was clearly reeling back then. Fame is a scary thing.
    —————————-
    Selena’s emulation in her tour outfits would come more from Miley than anyone else. it’s all about who came first. Madonna, and then Britney, so on, so forth.
    and while I don’t believe Miley got off twitter because she was “scared”, just annoyed and fed up, that was also a couple of years ago when she wasn’t as “this is who I am” to the media as she is today, and she’s back now. she knows herself. Selena… I can’t honestly say the same. if she does, her actions don’t prove it.

  • Anonymous

    Is there an argument going on about fictional characters? Really?

  • Anonymous

    WTF?! People assume that when you comment about Selena not calling her flawless or kissing her ass you’re a hater or a crazy ass Miley stan who hates Selena Gomez. Wtf whit put a pic of Miley as a “proof” the person never said that Miles never do that c’mon how pathetic – and i don’t see no wrong in show love and kissing in front of people they weren’t having sex ppl…i like Miley a lot but i cannot understand when Selena and her became twins for people cuz y’all always make comparisions geezz

  • mimi

    why is selena showing her vajaja? where is gs how you like it now should we call selena a slut we are seeing her vajaja! because that what you call miley when someone photograph her vajaja!

  • mimi

    WTF?! People assume that when you comment about Selena not calling her flawless or kissing her ass you’re a hater or a crazy ass Miley stan who hates Selena Gomez. Wtf whit put a pic of Miley as a “proof” the person never said that Miles never do that c’mon how pathetic – and i don’t see no wrong in show love and kissing in front of people they weren’t having sex ppl…i like Miley a lot but i cannot understand when Selena and her became twins for people cuz y’all always make comparisions geezz
    —-
    so true I don’t understand why selena fans constantly think selena is at miley level just because selena fuck nick?? that doesn’t give her the talent of miley or the stardom?

  • l?veislouder

    Feb 17, 2012 @ 08:17 pm
    Anonymous said:

    yeah but miley is not kissing in front of children or making out that was a peck! and that only her mom if anything nick is the one been disrespectful not miley because that her mom she tell her mom everything.
    ====
    Why can’t a couple who love each other show the slightest of their efection in front of children?
    ——————————
    tell me how that type of attitude is beneficial for children? the worst that is going to happen is the kid screams “eww! cooties!”, but it’s beneficial for a child’s development to see love and affection being given. how does withholding acts of love benefit the child? it doesn’t.
    when I was younger, I used to yell and say “gross” and “stop!” when my parents kissed. my parents are now divorced. I know logically that their divorce has nothing to do with me telling them to stop kissing, but emotionally, I feel really bad for doing that. but I believe that had a hand in why I’m such a loving person myself, and that I believe love has the power to save the world. love and affection only helps kids, it does not hurt them.

  • Anonymous

    why is selena showing her vajaja? where is gs how you like it now should we call selena a slut we are seeing her vajaja! because that what you call miley when someone photograph her vajaja!
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  • Anonymous

    why is selena showing her vajaja? where is gs how you like it now should we call selena a slut we are seeing her vajaja! because that what you call miley when someone photograph her vajaja!

    Actually Miley’s vajajay pic was fake as the Hannah wig :/ if you’re a fan you should know that just sayin’. In the rest of the photoset you can clearly see she has panties mimi…and don’t call Selena a slut if you don’t want the same treatment for you

  • l?veislouder

    so true I don’t understand why selena fans constantly think selena is at miley level just because selena fuck nick?? that doesn’t give her the talent of miley or the stardom?
    ———————–
    it annoys me so much when you say Selena fucked Nick and Taylor and Justin. I understand your dislike for her, but as there is no proof she had sex with any of them, you have no credibility when using it as a defense as to why Selena is a user. find other things based on facts to use, not cock-made bullshit.

  • jilti
  • kristin6410

    Selena looks cute in the first picture

  • CASSI101FUL

    Awww cute!

  • Takes1toKno1

    omg it’s turning into jelena summer of ’11 all over again. pictures everyday. -.-

  • mimi

    justin seems upset how the papz knew they were going to be there lol. pr they call them there is selena calling the papz lol. she showing her panties to justin lol.

  • Anonymous

    Do you even think before you post? You are so unbelievably inhate with Selena that you just blindly write whatever hatred you can think of. Do you know how fu$king sad you look to everyone on here? WE GET IT YOU DON’T LIKE HER>>>MOVE THE FU$K ON. You are making yourself out to be the ugliest human alive with so much hate.

  • Anonymous

    Wow, i seen more pictures on another site, and theres one picture where Justin and Selena are making out right in front of Justins father.. I guess they dont care who is around when they kiss.. But oops, i forgot, its all for pr, right? Even in front of his family they are faking their relationship!! HAHA, BTW, im being sarcastic!!

  • lol

    if the relationship is false the parents know that. you think that their parents never surf the internet

  • Anonymous

    mimi said:

    justin seems upset how the papz knew they were going to be there lol. pr they call them there is selena calling the papz lol. she showing her panties to justin lol.
    ———————————————–
    Anonymous said:

    Do you even think before you post? You are so unbelievably inhate with Selena that you just blindly write whatever hatred you can think of. Do you know how fu$king sad you look to everyone on here? WE GET IT YOU DON’T LIKE HER>>>MOVE THE FU$K ON. You are making yourself out to be the ugliest human alive with so much hate.
    —————————————–
    We all agree with you but her and Gorgeousselena just go on and on. It is very sad for both, if they are actually two people.

  • l?veislouder

    loveislouder, thats cute.. making up a rumor about selena smoking pot, I would believe it if she displayed any signs of it, which she doesnt.Too bad that I have friends who actually have worked on some of her projects and I know for a fact that .. you are lying. She isnt a pothead like miley.
    —————
    and too bad I have a friend who was told by Jake T. Austin, who likes to get high himself, that Selena smokes, as well as the whole cast of Wizards. don’t be mad because I know shit.
    and sweetie, there are no “signs” of smoking pot. you smoke, you get high, you order 13 pizzas from Papa John’s, you come down, you go about your day. there are no tell-tale signs of smoking.

  • Anonymous

    Sorry for asking but who is your friend? Amber Lily, Patrick Dunbar, Jansen Panettiere, Ryan Ochoa, Christian Fortune or one of his new friends?

  • crazylady

    I am a fan of someone who may still do weed so I think it’s obvious I wouldn’t dislike them for it but whenever someone says they do weed to ease their pain, I think of my dumbass ex (he is a lot of other things but let’s leave it at dumbass) with his hookah.

    when they say “I’m an ahole without it” I have to think that is one of the dumbest things ever. if you’re an ahole without it, then you’re an ahole. point blank.

  • Anonymous

    but I hate weed more because of the smell.
    ====
    If they had scented weed would you chang your mind about it?(not saying if you would smoke it)

  • crazylady

    If they had scented weed would you chang your mind about it?(not saying if you would smoke it)

    would I not put it above cancer sticks? yes
    would I accept it as an ok thing to do? no

  • Anonymous

    I am a fan of someone who may still do weed so I think it’s obvious I wouldn’t dislike them for it but whenever someone says they do weed to ease their pain, I think of my dumbass ex (he is a lot of other things but let’s leave it at dumbass) with his hookah.

    when they say “I’m an ahole without it” I have to think that is one of the dumbest things ever. if you’re an ahole without it, then you’re an ahole. point blank.
    —–
    So your problem is not with weed, its the reasons why some people think its justifiable for their issues/actions etc.

  • crazylady

    So your problem is not with weed, its the reasons why some people think its justifiable for their issues/actions etc.

    well I guess my issue MORE has to do with the reasons but no I have a problem with weed in general since I am very anti-drug as I said.

  • crazylady

    I know you said that weed can affect people differently but it could mess up their head one day just like it has already done to a lot of people. it’s just not good to take that chance

    just because weed comes from the ground doesn’t mean smoking it is a natural thing to do. basically it’s like this, one should not input foreign stuff in their body.

  • Anonymous

    I know you said that weed can affect people differently but it could mess up their head one day just like it has already done to a lot of people. it’s just not good to take that chance

    just because weed comes from the ground doesn’t mean smoking it is a natural thing to do. basically it’s like this, one should not input foreign stuff in their body.
    =====
    But, when its apart of ones culture it becomes a whole new situation/meaning.

  • l?veislouder

    Sorry I meant Taylor had been there for a while and knew it better than Selena. Seriously though I would love to hear where you heard this about Taylor Selena and Demi though.

    Demi being in LA missing Selena became friends with Miley and they even posted Selena’s song behind her back. Head first was the thing that really split them up.
    ———————-
    I had suspected “Solo” on Demi’s second album was about Taylor because I had heard her say that she had written a song about “a large orange man in Hollywood who thought he could get anything he wanted.” she said this right after posing with Taylor at the 2009 KCAs (who looked pretty damn orange that day). Taylor and Selena were spotted in Vancouver two weeks later. when “Here We Go Again” came out, I heard the song; it mentions “Twilight” (very cleverly, I might add), acting, wanting a private life, and her best friend. so a friend of mine was going to meet Demi at a concert, and I asked him to ask her if the song she wrote about the “large orange man” made it onto the album, and if it did, could she say which one it was. he did, and she said, “sure I can tell you! yeah, it’s ‘Solo’.”
    that’s how I knew the song was about Taylor, and how the there was a mini-triangle between Selena, Taylor, and Demi, which led to the demise of Demi and Selena’s friendship.

  • crazylady

    But, when its apart of ones culture it becomes a whole new situation/meaning.

    I don’t know what you mean by that but ok

  • l?veislouder

    (replying to this) – Feb 17, 2012 @ 11:56 pm
    Anonymous said:
    Sorry for asking but who is your friend? Amber Lily, Patrick Dunbar, Jansen Panettiere, Ryan Ochoa, Christian Fortune or one of his new friends?
    ————
    none of them, though Jansen likes to party it up with Jake a lot, and asked my friend for a cigarette at a party they were all at.

  • Anonymous

    One question if it is that cut and dry then why has not not come out? I could have sworn that the comment Demi made was that the song was about an Orange County guy. Don;t you find it strange that Demi was suddenly buddy buddy with Miley when Selena was in BC? Miley went from despising Demi to best friends in a month. Sorry I feel very different about this situation. Demi basically ran Selena just like wehn she was back in school in Texas. Selena looked up to Demi and loved her like a sister. She left regular school because Demi wanted to. I can;t see someone who would do almost anything and be there for her with all her issues, turn around a do that to Demi. Sorry I just don’t see it. How do you know everything your friend told you was 100% real?

  • Anonymous

    I don’t know what you mean by that but ok
    —-
    I’m going to keep this -extremely short-. It’s 3:30AM where I live. Rastafarian (rastas) smoke weed “religiously”, spiritually. They see it as a way of life, so I’ve been told. It’s a mind, “body”, and soul experiences, to them. They find faith and inspiration by smoking weed.

  • Anonymous

    I knew selena smoke weed justin seems like he stared smoking around the time he stared dating selena and he looked so skinny, probably selena got him hooked and probably why pattie don’t like her! she got justin hooked on weed!

  • Anonymous

    Feb 18, 2012 @ 12:47 am
    Anonymous said:

    I knew selena smoke weed justin seems like he stared smoking around the time he stared dating selena and he looked so skinny, probably selena got him hooked and probably why pattie don’t like her! she got justin hooked on weed!

    So delusional
    If Justin Smokes weed he probably picked up from home or any of the people he hangs with. I like how you seem to think Patty doesn’t like Selena, when she even posted a very positive tweet about how Selena and Taylor are amazing human beings and very inspirational.
    Stop trying so hard to make your life better by believing Selena is the evil queen.

  • l?veislouder

    Sorry I feel very different about this situation. Demi basically ran Selena just like wehn she was back in school in Texas. Selena looked up to Demi and loved her like a sister. She left regular school because Demi wanted to. I can;t see someone who would do almost anything and be there for her with all her issues, turn around a do that to Demi. Sorry I just don’t see it. How do you know everything your friend told you was 100% real?
    ————————
    Selena and Demi have always preached that they were best friends, would never let a guy come between them, and would rather neither of them date him than lose their friendship… then they have a fight over a guy. neither one of them are going to be that open about it, especially Selena, who insists on keeping her private life private. Demi, on the other hand, wants to speak her mind and make sure the offending party knows what her thoughts and feelings are, so she gives just enough information so the offending party knows what they did and what Demi is saying, but the whole world doesn’t know the details. remember “Ask Taylor”? that was Demi speaking to Selena.
    I find it to make perfect sense that Demi and Miley became closer friends when Selena went to Vancouver. in Demi’s eyes, Selena completely disregarded her feelings, and she ran off to go be with a guy, a guy that Demi was interested in. so she turns to another friend for support, a friend who the media just so happens to have pitted against the friend who did Demi wrong. it had to make her feel better, which is what she wanted; to be okay, especially with the demons we know now Demi was fighting. since you claim Selena knew all about them and was a good friend, would a good friend run off with a boy you like, knowing you have self-image issues and feelings for the guy? no, good friends don’t do that. and Miley never despised Demi, it was Selena she didn’t like. Miley never had resentment towards Demi (besides the little “you’re friends with someone I don’t like so I’m not exactly gonna be your biggest fan” attitude, which is something every girl has, and something Miley got over). Demi had attended Miley’s Sweet 16, which happened six months before Selena went to Vancouver; they were friends for a while.

    Demi never “ran” Selena, she just wanted her friend to be there for her. and Selena never left school for her. I don’t know where you heard that, but that’s not true. do you really think her mom would hear Selena say, “Mommy, Demi left school so I want to too” and say, “okay sweetie, whatever you want.” I mean, really. common sense here. Selena left school when it came to conflict with acting.
    and I know what my friend told me is true because he filmed it and I have the video, but even if he didn’t film it, I trust him. also, he didn’t know what the answer could’ve been or why I was asking, so he couldn’t have made it up.

  • l?veislouder

    I’m going to keep this -extremely short-. It’s 3:30AM where I live. Rastafarian (rastas) smoke weed “religiously”, spiritually. They see it as a way of life, so I’ve been told. It’s a mind, “body”, and soul experiences, to them. They find faith and inspiration by smoking weed.
    ——————————–
    Mormons also believe in having multiple wives, but that’s illegal in the United States too. just because a religion says and follows something doesn’t mean it’s morally right.

  • Anonymous

    Miley fans are keep saying Selena is copying Miley blah……. We love Selena and you can change that… i fucking hate Miley i respect her and I’m not wasting my time hating on her…

  • Anonymous

    Somewhat SUSPICIOUS at this point. You seem to have a lot of inside info that would have ruined her career and you are just sitting on it until now? Moshe, friend of Jake’s, why do I feel misled?

  • :)

    I really like Justin’s shorts.. :)

  • Anonymous

    Mormons also believe in having multiple wives, but that’s illegal in the United States too. just because a religion says and follows something doesn’t mean it’s morally right.
    —-
    It’s not technically a religion. It’s just a belief. I wasn’t talking about Rastafari in the United States, but I never specified the place or origin or regularity, which would be West Africa, specifically, Ethiopia. According to their morals, there is nothing viewed as being harmful, therefore making it a questionable belief. If Mormons marry ore than one women, who are we to question their religion? Is it the morals of the United States that frowns on Mormons making it immoral? or is it individual beliefs of those in the United States?

    I’m going to bed now. I probably shouldn’t have asked questions. Bye.

  • xAskTaylorx

    Well that’s not really appropriate. ~ Making out in front of your family, with little kiddies around and in public. NASTY! Haha. ;P

  • l?veislouder

    Somewhat SUSPICIOUS at this point. You seem to have a lot of inside info that would have ruined her career and you are just sitting on it until now? Moshe, friend of Jake’s, why do I feel misled?
    ———————————-
    I’ve known about her weed smoking for a while; I was told about it the summer of 2010. I mention it when people ask why I prefer Miley to Selena and try to discredit Miley by mentioning the salvia and weed jokes, but I’m not about to phone up TMZ and spill. I’m not out to take the girl down; I don’t have any right or business doing that, not when she hasn’t done anything to warrant that type of action against her. it’s just something I use to explain my personal opinion on her.
    I’m not lying when I say I’m a good person who strongly believes in the power of love. I wouldn’t think I’d be such a good person to come out and say something like that with the sole purpose of hurting Selena. even if I did, it’s not like everyone would believe me. all Selena would have to do is go on Twitter and type “I have not smoked pot” and all would be forgotten.

  • l?veislouder

    It’s not technically a religion. It’s just a belief. I wasn’t talking about Rastafari in the United States, but I never specified the place or origin or regularity, which would be West Africa, specifically, Ethiopia. According to their morals, there is nothing viewed as being harmful, therefore making it a questionable belief. If Mormons marry ore than one women, who are we to question their religion? Is it the morals of the United States that frowns on Mormons making it immoral? or is it individual beliefs of those in the United States?

    I’m going to bed now. I probably shouldn’t have asked questions. Bye.
    ———————————-
    I think it’s the mindset and the morals of any reasonable human being to decide that having multiple partners to be “committed” to (which would completely conflict the word “commit”) is morally wrong.

  • xAskTaylorx

    This is a gossip website. If they want to know stuff, there’s a thing called google, not long boring novels. Good nighttttt!!!!! =D

  • Anonymous

    l?veislouder said:
    you said
    but for her to create this “I do nothing wrong” fabrication for the public is ridiculous to me. to me
    _____
    but she didn’t the media did .she said every time that she makes mistakes but keeps it private.

  • jilti

    Something looks weird with them. idk
    Bieber looks like he don’t want to be there

  • DietCoke :)

    Why are they ALWAYS on vacation?

  • Anonymous
  • Kiah13

    How sad is it that he can’t even wear his bathing suit above his a$$. What a dork.

  • CONFUSED

    WTH is a Psyche major doing, A) arguing with kids and B) Stanning for a person that could probably use a good psychologist? Couldn’t get a job?

  • Anonymous

    I’m So Happy Selena Has Become Part Of The Family!The Pic When They’re Kissing Is So Cute!And…Haters Gonna Hate As Justin Said!:)

  • Anonymous

    lesbian couple <3

  • thunder.girl

    I’m not a particularly huge fan of either of them (I don’t dislike them, I’m just not someone who goes out and buys their CDs/DVDs etc) but I have to admit, these photos are cute!! It’s ridiculous to say it’s for publicity, I think if it was they wouldn’t have let it go on for this long!! They’re obviously in love, so I don’t see why people always have to make assumptions :)
    And on the underwear issue, it’s not her fault some creepy photographer took photos of her whilst she was bending down!! (:

  • Anonymous

    Love the pink underwear as you’re bent over Selena ;D

  • Anonymous

    lol at people who still think it’s publicity. who the fuck would waste a year(and more) being with a person they don’t love? specially when they spend every waking moment together, whenever they aren’t busy.

  • Anonymous

    as for selena smoking pot, i dont know, but its common knowledge justin does. except for the blind beliebers that think hes an angel. even an old friend from stratford said it (he dislikes justin now) and yes, it’s confirmed it’s really a stratford guy because chaz somers tweets him and the guy’s formspring is connected to his twitter. http://www.formspring.me/Robbieruns/q/285584642667455364
    so if justin smokes it wouldnt surprise me selena does it too

  • Anonymous

    lesbian couple <3

    hahaha ur so funny and so original

  • l?veislouder

    I understand what you’re saying, but what about all the times they are apart? Selena seems like a pretty strong person. Why can’t it just be because they are deeply in love?
    —————————–
    it’s definitely a possibility, I won’t cross it out.
    as for Selena being a strong person, ehh, I’d have to disagree. maybe I would say Selena is strong in a business sense, where she knows what moves are good for her to get her name out (then again, the Kardashians are smart in the same sense), but I feel like Selena is a very insecure person, especially in relationships. I believe it stems from her relationship with Nick, and her not being good enough for him (not being Miley). I think that really took a toll on her self-image.
    I didn’t really pay much attention to Selena beforehand, but I know she was a jeans and t-shirt with converse kind of girl when she entered Disney. when Nick came around, she started dressing with more style. when they broke up, she changed a lot. even now, 3 years later, she’s still harboring pain from that relationship (i.e. mentioning “that ex who made me change” in interviews). her insecurity could be the cause of/reason why she emulates Miley so much, and also why she dates the “it” guy. in her mind (whether subconscious or if she’s consciously aware of it), if she dates someone who is so big, she’s worth something, and that makes up for her not being good enough for Nick. it’s sad, but a logical explanation. it’s all psychology.

  • Anonymous

    Feb 17, 2012 @ 07:21 pm
    l?veislouder said:

    _________________
    Hmm I don’t see her emulating Miley. She answers questions that are asked and if Nick or an un-named boyfriend caused a lot of hurt then it would make sense. I think everyone is so hung up on her emulating Miley and dating the IT guy and so they immediately go to that. Myself, I think she actually has learned from that other relationship and now takes more charge of her actions. If Hannah and Mikayla never happened on HM I think Selena and Miley would be seen as individuals, not rivals. The thing that bugs the shit out of me with the IT guy thing is, The guy has to like her or it would not work. Doesn;t that make you think maybe , just maybe Selena is not the horrid person so many want us to believe she is? Just a question.

  • Anonymous

    Um, YES, they would fake their relationship in front of their families! you think his parents arent aware that this is all a big LIE? they understand that justin is only doing it to throw people off the scent of him being gay (lol). and selena gomez needed every last bit of residual bieber fame to get people to give a flying f-ck about her! this is BUSINESS, people. open your eyes. a REAL couple who have been dating for over a year, do not have the most awkward, staged-looking kisses in the world. these two? selena almost always has her lips sealed shut, and justin looks like he would be more interested in kissing a snail.

    i give this PRomance another month.

  • Anonymous

    I dont think this is a fake relationship at all!! The rest of you can keep calling it one and bei in denial.. If they only lasted for like 3 to 6 months, then i would have questioned it myself! but its beeon over a year, its a long time to fake it! But if thats what you want to think, go ahead! And yes, usually they are annoyed by the paparazzi, but i think they were having so much fun with Jazzy and Jaxon, that they just ignored the paparazzi and had fun! Its nice to see smiles on their faces when they are with his siblings!!

  • Anonymous

    Anonymous said:

    Ah tell you what become as famous as Justin and as high profile as Jelena is right now and move to California. You will quickly learn that Paps crawl out of the woodwork and actually network with each other to find these people.
    ____________________

    Sorry, but no. I know all about how the paparrazi work in LA. they strike deals with certain celebs to come meet them for a specific amount of time, capture some “key” moments and leave. it benefits both the celeb, who gets the exposure they desire (on THEIR terms), and the pap agency, who get a big pay-off with little to no work.

    i tell YOU what. became as wealthy as justin bieber, and see if you cant afford the most privacy in the entire world. when you actually want it, that is.

  • Anonymous

    Anonymous said:

    Ah tell you what become as famous as Justin and as high profile as Jelena is right now and move to California. You will quickly learn that Paps crawl out of the woodwork and actually network with each other to find these people.
    ____________________

    Sorry, but no. I know all about how the paparrazi work in LA. they strike deals with certain celebs to come meet them for a specific amount of time, capture some “key” moments and leave. it benefits both the celeb, who gets the exposure they desire (on THEIR terms), and the pap agency, who get a big pay-off with little to no work.

    i tell YOU what. became as wealthy as justin bieber, and see if you cant afford the most privacy in the entire world. when you actually want it, that is.

  • Anonymous

    Finally. Someone that gets it.

  • Anonymous

    I understand what you’re saying, but what about all the times they are apart? Selena seems like a pretty strong person. Why can’t it just be because they are deeply in love?
    —————————–
    it’s definitely a possibility, I won’t cross it out.
    as for Selena being a strong person, ehh, I’d have to disagree. maybe I would say Selena is strong in a business sense, where she knows what moves are good for her to get her name out (then again, the Kardashians are smart in the same sense), but I feel like Selena is a very insecure person, especially in relationships. I believe it stems from her relationship with Nick, and her not being good enough for him (not being Miley). I think that really took a toll on her self-image.
    I didn’t really pay much attention to Selena beforehand, but I know she was a jeans and t-shirt with converse kind of girl when she entered Disney. when Nick came around, she started dressing with more style. when they broke up, she changed a lot. even now, 3 years later, she’s still harboring pain from that relationship (i.e. mentioning “that ex who made me change” in interviews). her insecurity could be the cause of/reason why she emulates Miley so much, and also why she dates the “it” guy. in her mind (whether subconscious or if she’s consciously aware of it), if she dates someone who is so big, she’s worth something, and that makes up for her not being good enough for Nick. it’s sad, but a logical explanation. it’s all psychology.
    —–
    that makes sense.

  • Anonymous

    I guess the reason they spent the day at the beach with jazzy and Jaxon today, was because they are heading back home to Canada today(Jazzy and Jaxon, that is). Justins father Jeremy tweeted that they were leaving today, but he(Jeremy) is staying behind for Justins 18th Birthday which is in two weeks!!

  • threelittlebirds

    the dress is cute. at least she took those ugly extensions out of her hair.

  • lovemestealmeawayy

    hey anyone know or have a live steam of disney channell..not the EAST but the west..because i missed radio rebel and want to watch it..

  • xAskTaylorx

    CONFUSED said:
    WTH is a Psyche major doing, A) arguing with kids and B) Stanning for a person that could probably use a good psychologist? Couldn’t get a job?

    ———————

    LMAO!!! Bravo! XD

  • Anonymous

    WTH is a Psyche major doing, A) arguing with kids and B) Stanning for a person that could probably use a good psychologist? Couldn’t get a job?

    whod s psyche major? loveislouder? mimi?

  • Anonymous

    If you hate selena so much why are wasting you time here….everybody knows she is the good one she is beautiful that is why every boys crazy about her and stop saying selena smoke cuz she dont

  • mimi

    that’s exactly what am saying someone photographing miley vajaja and now selena’s so who the one doing wrong to me the photographer but selena fans don’t seem to understand that!!! that if it happen to miley it could happen to selena how does it feel now!!!!

  • Anonymous

    Feb 17, 2012 @ 08:32 pm
    mimi said:

    that’s exactly what am saying someone photographing miley vajaja and now selena’s so who the one doing wrong to me the photographer but selena fans don’t seem to understand that!!! that if it happen to miley it could happen to selena how does it feel now!!!!

    Mimi your constant slamming is what is the problem. No one can take you serious, because you sound like a crazy person with every post.

  • Anonymous

    Feb 17, 2012 @ 08:20 pm
    l?veislouder said:

    No I didn’t mean she was scared off of Twitter, I meant she was showing major insecurities and people just got mean with her.
    I seriously don’t understand why you say Selena has not shown strength. Selena does not push for sympathy, she is bombarded with some brutal hate every ten minutes, So is Miley I know, it’s the nature of the beast. Selena has only lashed out twice at people in three and a half years and both times she was basically saying, I am the person in the business not my family. If you want to hurt be mean to anyone be mean to me, just leave them alone. That to me is showing an awful lot of strength and maturity. Just sayin. Great conversation though. That’s rare on here.

  • BrokenArrow

    wait one second when miley get a photograph by somebody focusing on her private is her fault but when is selena privates is somebody else is fault what a fucking double standard selena fans are!!!

    Well, that’s what you do, right mimi?
    Like when someone took a picture of her ass you blamed Selena but when someone took picture of Miley’s p`rivate part she didnt care to show you blame the papz?

  • mimi

    so true I don’t understand why selena fans constantly think selena is at miley level just because selena fuck nick?? that doesn’t give her the talent of miley or the stardom?
    ———————–
    it annoys me so much when you say Selena fucked Nick and Taylor and Justin. I understand your dislike for her, but as there is no proof she had sex with any of them, you have no credibility when using it as a defense as to why Selena is a user. find other things based on facts to use, not cock-made bullshit
    —-
    It’s obvios she fucked nick she was all over touring with him and well there were a few photograph of her coming out of his tour bus and her hair was messy and well her shirt was kind of messy if you get what i mean and what you think they were doing when they travel together and stay together play footsy? and what you think taylor l said that she smell good on his pillow? or selena ending up alone in hotels with justin what do you think they are doing??? playing cards? why will a guy pay thousand of dollar to stay with his girlfriend in a hotel to play board games!

  • BrokenArrow

    Nobody told Selena you don’t bend down that way when you’re wearing a dress.

  • Anonymous

    so true I don’t understand why selena fans constantly think selena is at miley level just because selena fuck nick?? that doesn’t give her the talent of miley or the stardom?

    Umm kinda true maybe? The real deal it’s that Selena it’s not a good rival for the youngest multiplatinum singer in history Miley Cyrus. But in the other side you do the same. You are always bashing Selena and giving her attention at the same time. Try comments like “She’s pretty” like you used to and don’t go down to Claudia’s level. I’m only discuss things when the SG’s crzay ass stans mess up with Miley’s career – that’s a thing i won’t let they bash – cuz i find funny gorgeusselena talks shit about Miley and says Selly is slaying whne it’s not like that really…

  • BrokenArrow

    mimi said:

    hahahaha didn’t i tell you gs that anyone can take a photograph of private parts here honey what you going to call selena now that we see her vajaja at least miley shaved and we can see selena black hairy vajaja! take your spit you threw on miley and swallowed!!! that spit must taste good honey since it felt flat in your face boooyaaaa! splat!!!

    http://oceanup.com/photogallery?nid=68106&fid=473146

    Eww mimi stop looking at Selena’s private part.
    You’re just as disgusting as Claudia waiting to watch Miley’s nipples. lol

  • Anonymous

    Anonymous said:

    so true I don’t understand why selena fans constantly think selena is at miley level just because selena fuck nick?? that doesn’t give her the talent of miley or the stardom?

    Umm kinda true maybe? The real deal it’s that Selena it’s not a good rival for the youngest multiplatinum singer in history Miley Cyrus. But in the other side you do the same. You are always bashing Selena and giving her attention at the same time. Try comments like “She’s pretty” like you used to and don’t go down to Claudia’s level. I’m only discuss things when the SG’s crzay ass stans mess up with Miley’s career – that’s a thing i won’t let they bash – cuz i find funny gorgeusselena talks shit about Miley and says Selly is slaying whne it’s not like that really…

    Smth more: it’s rude and stupid to say she fucked someone if you weren’t in the bed with them. The people that compare them aren’t really doing it because of Nick sweetie get over it…

  • l?veislouder

    It’s obvios she fucked nick she was all over touring with him and well there were a few photograph of her coming out of his tour bus and her hair was messy and well her shirt was kind of messy if you get what i mean and what you think they were doing when they travel together and stay together play footsy? and what you think taylor l said that she smell good on his pillow? or selena ending up alone in hotels with justin what do you think they are doing??? playing cards? why will a guy pay thousand of dollar to stay with his girlfriend in a hotel to play board games!
    ———————-
    honey, I’ve slept with more guys than I can count, and when I say “slept”, that’s exactly what I mean: sleep. it is possible to be alone with your significant other and not go at each other like animals. it’s called willpower. you may not have it or heard of it, but that doesn’t mean other people don’t. I highly doubt Selena and Nick were having sex on a tour bus with the whole family, band, and management on board. could other things have gone down? without a doubt.
    as for Taylor, I think they, as I, just slept together, though it is entirely possible that she just lay on his bed for a nap or just to rest, and when she left, her smell was still there.
    not everything occurring within 500 feet of a bed means sexual activity.

  • mimi

    No I didn’t mean she was scared off of Twitter, I meant she was showing major insecurities and people just got mean with her.
    I seriously don’t understand why you say Selena has not shown strength. Selena does not push for sympathy, she is bombarded with some brutal hate every ten minutes, So is Miley I know, it’s the nature of the beast. Selena has only lashed out twice at people in three and a half years and both times she was basically saying, I am the person in the business not my family. If you want to hurt be mean to anyone be mean to me, just leave them alone. That to me is showing an awful lot of strength and maturity. Just sayin. Great conversation though. That’s rare on here.
    —–
    first we all know why miley left twitter is because perez keep stalking her twitter and turning words around he was hating on her and the media was stalking and posting everything she wrote and she was mad about the entired media using her twitter to display things and turning them in a negative way! she didn’t want to feed them any more information on anything she was doing but she came back for her fans not for the haters or the media!! she did it for her fans because the beg her and wanted her back! she loves her fans!

    as for selena she constantly pushes for sympathy she said she got bullied after miley said before that she said she never had that problem, she talks about hate but she don’t get media hate like miley she gets love from the media they think miley is the devil because she lash out back at them and told them off and miley has strong opinion and is not afraid to say what on her mind, while selena just suck up to them so they wont hate them including the biggest hater of all perez! selena wants pity from everything she weak and is always afraid to stand up for anything unlike miley she might get hate but she tells people off all the time that why the media loves picking on her because fans will stand by her no matter how twisted they want to put miley down, because we know why they are doing it because they need miley to get views!

  • Anonymous

    i love how Miley and Selena will always be compared to each other until something tragic happens. two completely different people with two completely different boyfriends yet, it seems the similarities,even to this day, will never cease.

  • A

    Eww mimi stop looking at Selena’s private part.
    You’re just as disgusting as Claudia waiting to watch Miley’s nipples. lol
    =========
    They’re both peeping tom. I’m sure they get some sort of pleasure out of hating on Miley and Selena.

  • l?veislouder

    No I didn’t mean she was scared off of Twitter, I meant she was showing major insecurities and people just got mean with her.
    I seriously don’t understand why you say Selena has not shown strength. Selena does not push for sympathy, she is bombarded with some brutal hate every ten minutes, So is Miley I know, it’s the nature of the beast. Selena has only lashed out twice at people in three and a half years and both times she was basically saying, I am the person in the business not my family. If you want to hurt be mean to anyone be mean to me, just leave them alone. That to me is showing an awful lot of strength and maturity. Just sayin. Great conversation though. That’s rare on here.
    ———————————-
    I highly, highly, highly applaud Selena for the hate I know she is getting on a daily basis. whether this relationship is fake, real, serious, a fling, whatever, the things that those people say are atrocious and can get to any reasonable person. she may be crying her eyes out every night for all we know, but for her to walk out with her head held high everyday and not show the haters any reaction to that, I applaud her greatly. that is definitely strength.
    I just don’t think she has that amount of strength and confidence in herself, mainly when it comes to guys. her body language, actions, and words just don’t support it, coming from a psychology major’s point of view. that’s all I’m saying.

    and yes, I appreciate this civil conversation. I was thinking it myself, “we’re on two totally different ends of the spectrum, but I love that this is not a script of a mimi and claudia conversation.” we should both get cookies for that :)

  • Anonymous

    l?veislouder said:
    and yes, I appreciate this civil conversation. I was thinking it myself, “we’re on two totally different ends of the spectrum, but I love that this is not a script of a mimi and claudia conversation.” we should both get cookies for that :)
    ——————
    I had to copy that. I like it.:)

    Anyways, not sure if you realize or not but I am a fan of both. How could you not be in awe of what they, as young as they are, have both achieved. If Miley and Selena were guys, they would be FU$KING revered for what they have done.
    The way young people now a days think they are entitled to say anything about anyone is really sad. If the person has never done anything to me personally, I feel I have no right in judging them. I will however defend someone I think is being wrongfully chastised for things just because they are famous.

  • A

    Eww mimi stop looking at Selena’s private part.
    You’re just as disgusting as Claudia waiting to watch Miley’s nipples. lol
    =========
    They’re both peeping tom. I’m sure they get some sort of pleasure out of hating on Miley and Selena.

  • mimi

    It’s obvios she fucked nick she was all over touring with him and well there were a few photograph of her coming out of his tour bus and her hair was messy and well her shirt was kind of messy if you get what i mean and what you think they were doing when they travel together and stay together play footsy? and what you think taylor l said that she smell good on his pillow? or selena ending up alone in hotels with justin what do you think they are doing??? playing cards? why will a guy pay thousand of dollar to stay with his girlfriend in a hotel to play board games!
    ———————-
    honey, I’ve slept with more guys than I can count, and when I say “slept”, that’s exactly what I mean: sleep. it is possible to be alone with your significant other and not go at each other like animals. it’s called willpower. you may not have it or heard of it, but that doesn’t mean other people don’t. I highly doubt Selena and Nick were having sex on a tour bus with the whole family, band, and management on board. could other things have gone down? without a doubt.
    as for Taylor, I think they, as I, just slept together, though it is entirely possible that she just lay on his bed for a nap or just to rest, and when she left, her smell was still there.
    not everything occurring within 500 feet of a bed means sexual activity
    ——
    you really think selena and justin are just sleeping together hahahahahah am sorry but just the way he grabbed her ass and her tits and her vajaja says other wise!!! he too familiar with her body!

    and as for nick the day they got caught they came out off the bus and nobody was there but them! and of course they stay in hotel and even once it was posted selena and nick sleep in one suite together, and selena seems to love with nick i think he was her first and as we all know the jonas were not virgin it was only a scam they obviosly had sex and nick dating an older woman who has sex i doubt they are playing footsi!

  • Anonymous

    ….dating an older woman who has sex i doubt they are playing footsi!

    -DEAD- XD

  • mimi

    love how Miley and Selena will always be compared to each other until something tragic happens. two completely different people with two completely different boyfriends yet, it seems the similarities,even to this day, will never cease
    —-
    Us miley fans didn’t stared it was selena fans who stared the entired miley and selena drama just because selena fucked nick! they thought they could compare miley huge stardom to someone like selena who had nothing compared to miley!
    \
    actually is an insult to miley’s name to be compared to selena who has done so little and miley so much and miley has talent in singing while selena can’t sing! of course her fans need new ears because they can’t tell the difference between notes!

  • l?veislouder

    you really think selena and justin are just sleeping together hahahahahah am sorry but just the way he grabbed her ass and her tits and her vajaja says other wise!!! he too familiar with her body!

    and as for nick the day they got caught they came out off the bus and nobody was there but them! and of course they stay in hotel and even once it was posted selena and nick sleep in one suite together, and selena seems to love with nick i think he was her first and as we all know the jonas were not virgin it was only a scam they obviosly had sex and nick dating an older woman who has sex i doubt they are playing footsi!
    ———————————
    I never said I think she and Justin are just sleeping together, just that there is no proof they’ve had sex. he can be familiar with her body in ways other than have sex with her. that’s something you just don’t seem to want to admit. the issue here isn’t Justin and Selena being intimate (or Selena and Nick, or Selena and Taylor), it’s you not wanting there to be any other explanation than Selena having sex, when there are COUNTLESS possibilities.

  • Anonymous

    honey, I’ve slept with more guys than I can count, and when I say “slept”, that’s exactly what I mean: sleep. it is possible to be alone with your significant other and not go at each other like animals. it’s called willpower. you may not have it or heard of it, but that doesn’t mean other people don’t. I highly doubt Selena and Nick were having sex on a tour bus with the whole family, band, and management on board. could other things have gone down? without a doubt.
    as for Taylor, I think they, as I, just slept together, though it is entirely possible that she just lay on his bed for a nap or just to rest, and when she left, her smell was still there.
    not everything occurring within 500 feet of a bed means sexual activity.
    ======

  • Anonymous

    loveislouder she isn’t even that much hate it. I always see more people defending her.
    Miley Cyrus takes that crown unfortunately :( The “slutty trainwreck” everybody loves to bring down – i hate that. If Selena was more famous she would get more hate probably. It’s sad. Things were getting out of control years ago and i was smelling a Britney 2.0 and i really really really don’t want that happen :( Justin Bieber it’s in the top with her – i think even more people hate the guy

  • mimi

    hahahaha didn’t i tell you gs that anyone can take a photograph of private parts here honey what you going to call selena now that we see her vajaja at least miley shaved and we can see selena black hairy vajaja! take your spit you threw on miley and swallowed!!! that spit must taste good honey since it felt flat in your face boooyaaaa! splat!!!

    http://oceanup.com/photogallery?nid=68106&fid=473146

  • l?veislouder

    hahahaha didn’t i tell you gs that anyone can take a photograph of private parts here honey what you going to call selena now that we see her vajaja at least miley shaved and we can see selena black hairy vajaja! take your spit you threw on miley and swallowed!!! that spit must taste good honey since it felt flat in your face boooyaaaa! splat!!!

    http://oceanup.com/photogallery?nid=68106&fid=473146
    —————————-
    it’s actually really sad that you went looking for that, and are now so excited to have found it.

  • mimi

    I never said I think she and Justin are just sleeping together, just that there is no proof they’ve had sex. he can be familiar with her body in ways other than have sex with her. that’s something you just don’t seem to want to admit. the issue here isn’t Justin and Selena being intimate (or Selena and Nick, or Selena and Taylor), it’s you not wanting there to be any other explanation than Selena having sex, when there are COUNTLESS possibilities
    –0–
    How old are you am old enought to tell when people are having sex, they obviosly are! and that is inrevelant unless justin decided to video tape selena and then leaked it! don’t make excuses I hate when people do that when is obvios what they are doing, before I didn’t think she did it with nick but the sting she had with nick and pictures and little things she said made me changed my mind and if she is been so open with justin is because she already done it. But i don’t think she loves justin she just need him to get ahead she used people and she having fun with him but i have a feeling she has a torch for nick and she been this expose with justin because she wants nick to see that she moved on but she havent because the song she sang at her concert and what she said on comospolitan are things people say when they still bitter and still has a torch for them, she trying to act like she moved on as she is happy but she obviosly just using justin for two thing to make nick jelouse and get media exposure and invitation to awards she never got invited before!

  • Anonymous

    hahahaha didn’t i tell you gs that anyone can take a photograph of private parts here honey what you going to call selena now that we see her vajaja at least miley shaved and we can see selena black hairy vajaja! take your spit you threw on miley and swallowed!!! that spit must taste good honey since it felt flat in your face boooyaaaa! splat!!!

    You’re a shame for Miley fans idiot. I’m a fan and i’m seeing you are just a Claudia hater wannabe and a poor attempt of a fan like her. How you dare to say you support her when you are doing everyhting but radiate love?! WTF creepy bitch looking someone else’s crotch!

  • Still Anonymous

    Wow Oceanup… The Jelena pics are cute. But it has to be child pornography or something, leaving that pic of Selena’s vajayjay in the mix. I didn’t need to know that the carpet matched the drapes. I didn’t need to know that at all. I think the paps are disgusting for even taking that pic. -_-

  • Anonymous

    Feb 17, 2012 @ 08:56 pm
    mimi said:

    hahahaha didn’t i tell you gs that anyone can take a photograph of private parts here honey what you going to call selena now that we see her vajaja at least miley shaved and we can see selena black hairy vajaja! take your spit you threw on miley and swallowed!!! that spit must taste good honey since it felt flat in your face boooyaaaa! splat!!!

    Sorry MIMI but only a SICK FUCK would take what is clearly a family having fun and turn it into something fucking dirty. I am so sick of your BULLSHIT.

  • Anonymous

    Pics like this are why Selena hates the perverts that are aloud to stalk stars. That photographer should be shot.

  • mimi

    hahahaha didn’t i tell you gs that anyone can take a photograph of private parts here honey what you going to call selena now that we see her vajaja at least miley shaved and we can see selena black hairy vajaja! take your spit you threw on miley and swallowed!!! that spit must taste good honey since it felt flat in your face boooyaaaa! splat!!!

    http://oceanup.com/photogallery?nid=68106&fid=473146
    —————————-
    it’s actually really sad that you went looking for that, and are now so excited to have found it.
    ——
    Actually, am not excited about selena showing her privates pubic hair or vajaja or for that matter miley’s I actually feel bad for them that people did that to them, but when you get selena fans who are hateful and love to start trouble and they don’t understand when you are saying that not miley’s fault and they call her name it feel good to have proof that it could happen to anyone! even their idol and maybe they should stop hating on miley for things that are out her hand or control of her’s. It feel good to see for themselves that just like it happen to miley it can happen to selena! they say selena is classy is this classy according to selena fan is not! but I actually feel bad for both girls because that to me is crossing the line from people photographing directly at their private parts, i feel bad for both selena and miley because i find that embarrasing but i just had to show gs that what she said felt flat on her face! am excited to proof my point not because i found proof is because I proof that it can happen to anyone you obviosly did not understand what i was trying to point out!

  • Still Anonymous

    I knew my mother always had a good point when she made me wear shorts under my skirts. Always. It’s rude that a pap even took this picture though.

    http://oceanup.com/photogallery?nid=68106&fid=473146

    P.S. I’m happy to see that Selena is so close to Justins family. I hope that spending time with his younger siblings also helps heal the wounds from losing Scarlett

  • l?veislouder

    How old are you am old enought to tell when people are having sex, they obviosly are! and that is inrevelant unless justin decided to video tape selena and then leaked it! don’t make excuses I hate when people do that when is obvios what they are doing, before I didn’t think she did it with nick but the sting she had with nick and pictures and little things she said made me changed my mind and if she is been so open with justin is because she already done it. But i don’t think she loves justin she just need him to get ahead she used people and she having fun with him but i have a feeling she has a torch for nick and she been this expose with justin because she wants nick to see that she moved on but she havent because the song she sang at her concert and what she said on comospolitan are things people say when they still bitter and still has a torch for them, she trying to act like she moved on as she is happy but she obviosly just using justin for two thing to make nick jelouse and get media exposure and invitation to awards she never got invited before!
    ——————
    you’re so annoying when you repeat the same thing over and over again, creating an unnecessary novel.
    1) I am 19, as I have told you countless times before when you like to attack me for being engaged and having a fiancé younger than me (who I have not had sex with yet, by the way)
    2) it is not “obvious” because sexual acts leave no physical marks. it’s not as if she and Justin are glowing Devil-red after having sex. you can’t tell just by their actions. you know what you can tell? that Justin’s a horny fuck and Selena welcomes it, but that does not directly mean they have sex.
    3) I have an ex that I am still sensitive about from 2009. I have moved forward in my life, but if he ever resurfaces in my mind, you bet I’m gonna be upset when I remember what happened between us. remembering pain and being hurt does not mean every action she does is based on “What will Nick think?”
    4) Selena has been invited to both the Grammys and Oscars before, which had no relevancy in your comment.

  • Anonymous

    WARNING! WARNING! If you show any kind of PDS, you will be accused of having sex. SO NO PUBLIC DISPLAY OF AFFECTION!

  • l?veislouder

    Actually, am not excited about selena showing her privates pubic hair or vajaja or for that matter miley’s I actually feel bad for them that people did that to them, but when you get selena fans who are hateful and love to start trouble and they don’t understand when you are saying that not miley’s fault and they call her name it feel good to have proof that it could happen to anyone even their idol and maybe they should hate on miley for things that are out control of her’s. It feel good to see for themselves that just like it happen to miley it can happen to selena! but I actually feel bad for both girls because that to me is crossing the line from people photographing directly at their private parts, i feel bad for both selena and miley because i find that embarrasing but i just had to show gs that what she said felt flat on her face! am excited to proof my point not because i found proof is because I proof that it can happen to anyone you obviosly did not understand what i was trying to point out!
    ——————————————-
    oh, I understood what you were trying to point out. and then I said you were excited to have found that (which is sad). then you said, “I’m not excited to see it but I am excited to have proof.” I didn’t state why you were excited, just that you were, which you just admitted you are.
    my points proven. case closed.

  • Anonymous

    what’s with the paragraphs!!!?!!

  • Anonymous

    WARNING! WARNING! If you show any kind of PDS
    ==

    PDS??

  • mimi

    you’re so annoying when you repeat the same thing over and over again, creating an unnecessary novel.
    1) I am 19, as I have told you countless times before when you like to attack me for being engaged and having a fiancé younger than me (who I have not had sex with yet, by the way)
    2) it is not “obvious” because sexual acts leave no physical marks. it’s not as if she and Justin are glowing Devil-red after having sex. you can’t tell just by their actions. you know what you can tell? that Justin’s a horny fuck and Selena welcomes it, but that does not directly mean they have sex.
    3) I have an ex that I am still sensitive about from 2009. I have moved forward in my life, but if he ever resurfaces in my mind, you bet I’m gonna be upset when I remember what happened between us. remembering pain and being hurt does not mean every action she does is based on “What will Nick think?”
    4) Selena has been invited to both the Grammys and Oscars before, which had no relevancy in your comment
    —-
    than you obviosly don’t know nothing i obviosly have more experience than you in everything and I know what am talking about! they are having sex only someone who is naive will think otherwise don’t make excuses for the obvios!

    sorry, but i don’t make obvios excuses she still has a torch for nick if not she will not had gone bad out with him a second time when she trashed him about him treating her bad and she goes out back to him, she either in love or stupid who loves to get mentally abuse! because who will go back to someone who put you down and desires another girl and wants you to be her!!

    and selena did not get invited to many thing before justin so not she only got invited to kid choice award and nickelodian the only invited to grammy and golden was miley not selena until justin!

  • Anonymous

    Feb 17, 2012 @ 09:10 pm
    Still Anonymous said:

    I knew my mother always had a good point when she made me wear shorts under my skirts. Always. It’s rude that a pap even took this picture though.

    OMMITTED like OU should have

    P.S. I’m happy to see that Selena is so close to Justins family. I hope that spending time with his younger siblings also helps heal the wounds from losing Scarlett
    ———————————-
    I like you.:) Very well put

  • Anonymous

    If you walk side by side you will be labeled as bedroom wall sex freaks.

  • Anonymous

    what’s with the paragraphs!!!?!!
    —-
    Once you become in-depth with a conversation, you don’t realize you wrote more than you thought.

  • mimi

    Actually, am not excited about selena showing her privates pubic hair or vajaja or for that matter miley’s I actually feel bad for them that people did that to them, but when you get selena fans who are hateful and love to start trouble and they don’t understand when you are saying that not miley’s fault and they call her name it feel good to have proof that it could happen to anyone even their idol and maybe they should hate on miley for things that are out control of her’s. It feel good to see for themselves that just like it happen to miley it can happen to selena! but I actually feel bad for both girls because that to me is crossing the line from people photographing directly at their private parts, i feel bad for both selena and miley because i find that embarrasing but i just had to show gs that what she said felt flat on her face! am excited to proof my point not because i found proof is because I proof that it can happen to anyone you obviosly did not understand what i was trying to point out!
    ——————————————-
    oh, I understood what you were trying to point out. and then I said you were excited to have found that (which is sad). then you said, “I’m not excited to see it but I am excited to have proof.” I didn’t state why you were excited, just that you were, which you just admitted you are.
    my points proven. case closed
    ——
    you say you are 19 but you are thinking like a 12 year old? your point is not close i said am excited that it can happen to anyone as oppose to what you are saying that am excited selena is showing her vagina! huge difference!

  • l?veislouder

    Anyways, not sure if you realize or not but I am a fan of both. How could you not be in awe of what they, as young as they are, have both achieved. If Miley and Selena were guys, they would be FU$KING revered for what they have done.
    The way young people now a days think they are entitled to say anything about anyone is really sad. If the person has never done anything to me personally, I feel I have no right in judging them. I will however defend someone I think is being wrongfully chastised for things just because they are famous.
    —————————
    there’s definitely respect in what they’ve achieved. I’m the same way; I don’t hate Selena. I don’t know her. when I meet her, I’ll be able to have an opinion from that. I just like Miley more than Selena because, to me, she is much more real, and doesn’t hide what she does or hide her views. Selena, I happen to know a few things she does behind closed doors, and while I have friends who do the same things, I can’t respect her maintaining an image that is not her. I deeply believe in honesty; I see no reason to lie. if others can’t accept you for who you are, who needs them? you don’t. but for her to create this “I do nothing wrong” fabrication for the public is ridiculous to me. to me, life’s too short to hide. air your laundry out and live your life.

  • Anonymous

    Feb 17, 2012 @ 09:17 pm
    mimi said:

    ——————————-
    Oh MY FUCKING GOD, did you really just say you have more knowledge than someone who clearly has more eduction than you probably ever will have?
    You keep making yourself look like an IDIOT over and over and over. GO READ A BOOK

  • teehee

    I must say Selena and Justin make me puke but I’m just here for the comments so I barely look at the pix ^__^

  • Anonymous

    WARNING! WARNING! If you show any kind of PDS
    ==

    PDS??

    Ooop, i meant pda.

  • loveislouderismylove

    I love you loveislouder! :3

  • mimi

    knew my mother always had a good point when she made me wear shorts under my skirts. Always. It’s rude that a pap even took this picture though.

    OMMITTED like OU should have

    P.S. I’m happy to see that Selena is so close to Justins family. I hope that spending time with his younger siblings also helps heal the wounds from losing Scarlett
    ———————————-
    I like you.:) Very well put
    ——
    lol, my mom always made me wear lycra black short under dresses lol! The really high short incase my skirt rose up, up to this day I still wear short lol! am glad am not a star! i will have to cover myself all the times with people pointing at privates parts. I had enought with boys trying to look up my dress lol thank god for my mom telling to used them! beside for volleyball they make you wear those super short black short and under my tennis skirt i wear them too.

  • l?veislouder

    you say you are 19 but you are thinking like a 12 year old? your point is not close i said am excited that it can happen to anyone as oppose to what you are saying that am excited selena is showing her vagina! huge difference!
    ——————————
    when did I say you were excited Selena is showing her vagina (which she isn’t)? please, show me exactly where I said that, because I don’t recall saying that.
    I said you were excited to have found it, which you are, because you just admitted you are excited to have “proof.”

  • Anonymous

    Feb 17, 2012 @ 09:20 pm
    l?veislouder said:
    I have met Selena twice, once at a meet and greet and the other just in the street in Toronto, and both times she was unbelievably approachable and sweet. As to the behind closed doors thing, if it is private why not keep it private? Yes she has a career that has been built on a squeaky clean image and to me that is one way to go. All I know is that it has gotten her pretty far.

  • Anonymous

    they dont have to pda every where seriously this is family time not make out with your girlfriend time. there are little kids there show some respect and your parents are there someone should slap some sense into them

  • Anonymous

    if you love or like justin send a happy bday message to him http://www.justinhq.net/birthday/submit.html

  • Anonymous

    If you hold hands with a person you like YOU ARE DEFINITELY HAVING SEX!

  • Anonymous

    WARNING! WARNING! If you show any kind of PDS, you will be accused of having sex. SO NO PUBLIC DISPLAY OF AFFECTION!

    And having sex it’s bad? right? C’mon they’re adults and no one should be messing with their sex life what they do in bad it’s their bussiness mimi get a life and stop thinking throught your vajayjay

  • l?veislouder

    If you hold hands with a person you like YOU ARE DEFINITELY HAVING SEX!
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    http://i956.photobucket.com/albums/ae46/gleefan1919/obviously.gif

  • mimi

    Oh MY FUCKING GOD, did you really just say you have more knowledge than someone who clearly has more eduction than you probably ever will have?
    You keep making yourself look like an IDIOT over and over and over. GO READ A BOOK
    —–
    TRUST ME! i have more education than you! and more experience and just like you don’t go clearing your grammar or your spelling I do the same here! this is my freedom to write however i want! but honestly i truly have more experience than you in education and sex trust me! I don’t say everything! lol

  • Anonymous

    Feb 17, 2012 @ 09:25 pm
    mimi said:

    Oh MY FUCKING GOD, did you really just say you have more knowledge than someone who clearly has more eduction than you probably ever will have?
    You keep making yourself look like an IDIOT over and over and over. GO READ A BOOK
    —–
    TRUST ME! i have more education than you! and more experience and just like you don’t go clearing your grammar or your spelling I do the same here! this is my freedom to write however i want! but honestly i truly have more experience than you in education and sex trust me! I don’t say everything! lol
    ————————————-
    Wait are you telling me that you are an old man posing as a young kid on a gossip site for young people? What you just said has shed new light. AS far as education goes, knowing stuff and understanding it are two very different things. Your posts do not show much intelligence, just a whole lot of hate.

  • l?veislouder

    If you hold hands with a person you like YOU ARE DEFINITELY HAVING SEX!
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    http : //i956 . photobucket . com/albums/ae46/gleefan1919/obviously . gif

  • Anonymous

    WARNING! WARNING! If you show any kind of PDS

    PDS sounds like a type of herpes or smth LOL

  • Anonymous

    And having sex it’s bad? right? C’mon they’re adults and no one should be messing with their sex life what they do in bad it’s their bussiness mimi get a life and stop thinking throught your vajayjay
    ====

    SARCASM

  • mimi

    you say you are 19 but you are thinking like a 12 year old? your point is not close i said am excited that it can happen to anyone as oppose to what you are saying that am excited selena is showing her vagina! huge difference!
    ——————————
    when did I say you were excited Selena is showing her vagina (which she isn’t)? please, show me exactly where I said that, because I don’t recall saying that.
    I said you were excited to have found it, which you are, because you just admitted you are excited to have “proof
    ——
    you know if you were 19 you will had understood by know what am trying to say or you are very slow! am excited to have PROOF MY POINT THAT IT CAN HAPPEN TO ANYONE!!!!! should i explained in more depth or detail?

  • l?veislouder

    loveislouderismylove said:

    I love you loveislouder! :3
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    http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/I_love_you.gif

  • l?veislouder

    you know if you were 19 you will had understood by know what am trying to say or you are very slow! am excited to have PROOF MY POINT THAT IT CAN HAPPEN TO ANYONE!!!!! should i explained in more depth or detail?
    —————————–
    and all I said was that you were excited. and here you are, just proving my point over and over again.
    thank you, but we get it. you’re excited. goodbye now :)