Taylor Swift Ignored Harry Styles AMAs

gaga-swiftTaylor Swift did not make eye contact with ex=boyfriend Harry Styles and his One Direction bandmates at the American Music Awards, reports Us Weekly.

At one point, during a commercial break, Taylor with a security escort walked right in front of One Direction as she made her way to go backstage, staring straight ahead as she quickly made her way past them. She did, however, acknowledge and wave to the crowd otherwise.

Later in the night, returning to her seat and once again walking in front of the boys, Swift, whose seat was was on the other side of the theatre, similarly ignored Styles et al. But the 1D boys did, however, join the crowd in giving Swift a standing ovation for her Best Female Country artist award.

It was this time last year that Swift and Styles, 19, were in the midst of their ill-fated romance. After about four months together, they called it quits in early January of this year. Taylor on RED album being about one of he many exes presumably Jake Gyllenhaal:

‘He was like, ‘I just listened to the album, and that was a really bittersweet experience for me. It was like going through a photo album.’ That was nice.’ Nicer than, like, the ranting, crazy e-mails I got from this one dude.’

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  • RedneckAtHeart

    I love Taylor and all, but this just shows how childish she is. She’s also a grudge holder and that will bite her in the ass one day..

    • LikeICare

      Gurl no don’t believe this I thought you were better than this.
      Grudge holder? one of the people who bullied her back in school came to her concert, Taylor gave her a hug & joked around with her.
      What a grudge holder!1!!

      • RedneckAtHeart

        Bless your heart.. I believe this cause I can see her doing it, she’s done it before. And she is a grudge holder, I just never said that she gets over it. She does but it takes a few years..

        • bye

          I can see Nick Jonas fucking me and that doesn’t make it true. Get your shit together twat.

          • RedneckAtHeart

            Do you feel tough calling people you don’t know names via the internet on a gossip site? I’m sooo sorry that my OPINION doesn’t match yours, but I really don’t care.

          • Duckyhoward15

            Kill them <3

  • Anon

    Lol, its so shitty how the media always tries to make women look like the bad ones. Especially when it comes to Taylor. People magazine (a legit source) and other people actually there said Taylor was the first one to stand up and clap for 1D when they won the category she was also up for. And even if it is true that she didn’t make eye contact with them, people would probably be calling her a psycho bitch if she so much as glanced at them or Harry. Whatever, she looked stunning last night and owned the show with Timberlake.

    • Duckyhoward15

      I think Miley owned the show with the cat tbh ;)

      • Anon

        Hmmm she was close, but I think winning four awards and setting the record for most Artist of the Year award wins comes in first ;)

        • Duckyhoward15

          I was joking

      • cerenagee

        Hahaha correction, the cat owned the show haha the cat overshadowed Miley

        • Duckyhoward15

          My fault I am sorry ;)

    • HarryCurls

      I love how she calls two months dating as “relationships” though. LMAO, back when I was in 7th grade, I dated a boy for 7 months which is longer than all Swift’s relationships and I don’t even call that relationship.

      Joe – 3 months
      Jake – 2 months
      John – 1 night
      Harry – 2 months
      Connor – 4 months

      It’s ridiculous if you think a 24 year old can’t hold relationships. Must be something wrong with her.

      • LikeICare

        Her first boyfriend in school when she was 15 lasted with her for a year

        stfu

  • anon

    Who cares? People doesn’t need be friends with their ex after breakups. Plus everyone knows media would make it a big deal if she at least smile at him

  • http://instagram.com/foreverjordan thesestrangelittlethings

    I don’t see what’s wrong with not looking at someone; a wave would’ve been cool, but oh, well. Taylor Swift didn’t make eye contact with her ex, such a witch she is.

  • boystan

    Queen(gaga) and princess(taysus) of pop talking shit about the lessors.

  • LikeICare

    Basic bitches believing this..

  • Duckyhoward15

    Like Harry cares lol , he is a nice man who doesn’t care about people being rude towards him he will still be nice.

    • .

      He is a nice man but he cares about people think about him a lot… Is that a bad thing? No.

      • Duckyhoward15

        I meant that he doesn’t care if she looks at him or not he will still be nice and yes it sad that he cares about what people think , fuck people .

    • Anon

      Not making eye contact with an ex isn’t rude at all though? And this is quite clearly a rumor made up for more readers by a tabloid, but unfortunately some people will believe it (primarily one direction fans like you). She was the first one to stand up and clap for 1D, so she’s obviously very nice and kind too. Its not only Harry.

      • Duckyhoward15

        Did I mention she is rude ? my comment was about Harry :)

        • Anon

          “Like Harry cares. He doesn’t care about people being rude towards him”.

          Yes, you did mention she is rude. Right above in that sentence. And lol, I couldn’t care less about “you and your fandom”. Considering how disgusting and rude 1D fans can be, it looks kinda funny and silly when you say “don’t insult my fandom”. And I wasn’t even insulting you, I was simply stating how 1D fans take every chance they get to hate on Taylor and believe everything bad written about her :)

          • Duckyhoward15

            I said he doesn’t care when PEOPLE are rude towards him and i meant by it the people who are insulting him here but like harry cares i meant taylor and the article , we don’t believe anything about her cos we don’t care about her and trust me we are better than a fandom that wishes people cancer

          • Anon

            But nobody is being rude towards him or insulting him here? Nope, I actually sometimes think your fandom revolves around her. I always see 1D fans talking about her, it’s very amusing to watch. And I hope you know the cancer thing was started by a troll account, right? Of course you don’t. And it was “your fandom” who made it trend. Besides, 1D fans have said they wanted to “punch Taylor, pull out her hair, and stomp on her eyes” ON NATIONAL TELEVISION. That’s about as low as it gets friend.

          • Duckyhoward15

            Didn’t she talk shit about Joe Jonas on a national TV , I think my fandom got over her it was when haylor happened and trust me my fandom has so much to worry about so they don’t care about her , oh and one more thing some people are insulting him

          • Anon

            LOOL, that was five years ago babe. And if you’re really comparing talking about how your ex boyfriend broke up with in 27 seconds over the phone to girls TELLING HER THAT THEY ARE GOING TO FUCKING KILL HER AND STOMP ON HER EYES then you obviously have some issues and need to consult a doctor immediately. And your fandom “has so much to worry about” lmfao like what, if Larry is real or not? Even last night they sent hate to her, just because she won aoty (which she honestly deserved). And there is literally not a single comment on this post insulting Harry. Nice try though, you’re kinda cute actually!

          • LikeICare

            you’re my hero, i hate how these days its so cool to hate on taylor swift.

          • Duckyhoward15

            Its so cool to hate on anybody

          • Anon

            Haha exactly, thanks. Its just super annoying how people spread such false rumors about her and then everyone immediately believes them.

          • Duckyhoward15

            No honey I am saying that she was teen like them one day and both of them are wrong okay you clearly need to read more , read all the comments and I dare you that you will find atleast one insulting him , I wasn’t hating on her I was standing by Harry I didn’t even read the article cos I don’t care about anything , I was stating facts I didn’t mention Taylor till YOU mentioned it , I don’t like to hate on her and I don’t care about her , every other fandom hated on her directioners didn’t send her hate they tweeted that she isn’t 100 % a country singer . we have an album coming out , we just had a day for us from the boys , awards , singles , interviews , tour dates we are actually really busy now :D

          • Anon

            Lol. One of them was in humor ranting about an ex who broke her heart to ellen fucking degeneress and the others were sending her fucking disgusting death threats on national tv. You tell me which one is WAY more wrong than the other. And who cares if one comment out of 29 insults him, not everyone has the same opinion. (Oh and I read through the comments on this post and there are none). AND THIS IS AN ARTICLE ABOUT TAYLOR OF COURSE I MENTIONED HER LMFAO. And no facts were mentioned. And one direction fans sent the most hate to Taylor, its quite obvious. And no, they were saying things like she didn’t deserve her awards because “she is a dumb whore”. Real tweet. Unbelievable. And wow, the life of a 12 year old sounds really hard :)

          • Duckyhoward15

            SHE BULLIED JOE CALLING HIM A DOUCHE BAG OR WHATEVER BOTH ARE WRONG , this is an article about both of them I WAS DEFENDING HARRY , I DONOT CARE ABOUT HER AND YES SOME COMMENTS ARE INSULTING HIM , TILL YOU SEE ME HATING ON HER DONOT TALK TO ME ABOUT ME BEING RUDE OKAY , ONE FROM MILLION TWEETS , SWIFTIES MADE FUN OF HARRY WHEN HIS VOICE CRACKED SOME OF THEM DID , I WONOT SAY THE WHOLE FANDOM DID , jsy I amn’t 12 years old , I am 19 and now that you are making fun of me I won’t comment anymore

          • Anon

            Why are you writing in all caps? Is someone a bit angry their argument is going nowhere because they have no valid points? And why would you defend Harry in an article that is on his side? Lol. This article is OBVIOUSLY about the both of them, which is why your comment would be interpreted as calling her rude and him nice. AND LOL IF YOU TAKE ANYTHING SAID ON SATURDAY NIGHT LIVE SERIOUSLY THEN SOMETHING IS WRONG WITH YOU. And she never even called joe a douche bag so once again, no valid point. And nope, no comments hating on him here on this post. Not sure what the fuck you’re reading but keep telling yourself that. And that tweet was just an example, there were many more like that. All you had to do was type Taylor Swift in the search bar on twitter. And so what if some people made fun of him for his voice cracking? Taylor, Justin, and Miley all get made fun of everyday plus poking fun at someone for their voice cracking and telling someone they are an undeserving whore are two complete opposites. And if you’re 19, then you certainly don’t show it lol. Nice to know you aren’t commenting anymore, now I don’t have to repeat myself multiple times since you seem to not understand anything I say. Oh well, goodbye then friend

          • Duckyhoward15

            She did call him a douche bag lovely http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2twcSFYlt0 , so its okay if someone is making fun of haz but poor taylor if someone did that to her , you are the one who commented on a comment i made about harry , so I doubt you act your age as well :D

          • Anon

            Oh gosh, you seriously need to think before you post something.

            “I like writing songs about douche bags who cheat on me” and

            “You might think I’d bring Joe that guy who broke up with me on the phone but I’m not gonna talk about him”

            are two separate lines. In no way did she even come close to calling him a douche bag. Better luck next time buddy. And I in fact do have the right to reply to your comment, you looked like you were calling Taylor rude and since that is not true, I wanted to comment on it. Hence the “reply” button.

          • Duckyhoward15

            Didn’t she write better than revenge about him and clearly said he cheated on her ? stop defending her on this okayyyyyyyyyyyyy , well you should ask first what i meant before assuming things k

          • Anon

            Lol better than revenge was in response to that shitty song in which Joe stated his new girlfriend was “much better” than Taylor. If he can write about her why can’t she do the same? And she never said he cheated on her, she said that another girl stole him away. Of course I’ll defend her when someone is wrongly accusing her of something. And nope, it clearly looked like you were saying she was rude, I wasn’t going to ask. k?

          • Duckyhoward15

            Stole him from her means he cheated on her kitten , then I told you I didn’t call her rude but you keep going on and on like a broken record :D

          • Anon

            Stole him from her means she was the cause of their breakup, “kitten”. And even if he did cheat on her, then he obviously IS a douche bag. But I’m not sure why you are still talking about Joe, since Taylor and him have already moved on, and like I mentioned before, Holy Ground is a great song for him that SHE wrote. And I already used the broken record comeback, nice try again. All I said was that it clearly looked as if you said that, plus you keep trying to bring her down looool :)

          • LikeICare

            She didn’t bully him, she called him out on being a filthy dog, about time a woman understands that if a man treats you wrong, fuck hiiim and his feelings

          • Duckyhoward15

            About time a woman understands that getting over someone is the key to happiness and that you don’t need a man to be happy and that kill them with kindness is more effective than bullying people :)

          • Anon

            Well, then what you just said is completely irrelevant to Taylor because “In your life you’ll do things greater than dating the boy on the football team”. She did not bully anyone, so stop with that shit. And Taylor literally does kill people with kindness. Kanye West interrupted her on stage but Taylor wrote him a nice forgiving song and even modeled in his clothes. Lorde insulted Taylor in an interview and Taylor still chose to hang out with her and even sent in her flowers. Kelly Osborune made rude comments about her but Taylor still invited her over to her house. Carrie Underwood dissed Taylor yet Taylor still gave her kind words backstage :)

          • Duckyhoward15

            She should kill her exes with kindness as well and stop bashing them ;)

          • Anon

            LMFAO, I think I can honestly say that I do not know one person who would kill their EXES with kindness, especially if they got cheated on. You seriously need to stop, its not working. And she actually did kill Joe with kindness, so there you go! Go listen to Holy Ground, about Joe, and what an amazing thing it is. Then try talking. Taylor is great tbh. The song is my favorite.

          • Duckyhoward15

            Lol Holy Ground is one song when they broke up she kept singing forever and always or whatever , mad fun of harry twice , you know Sandra bullock does that , Harry does that mature people do that

          • Anon

            Holy Ground shows that she is over him and also shows that she thought their relationship was a beautiful thing. The last time she sang forever and always was literally in 2009, excluding when she sang it as a red tour surprise song for the fans. And lol, she didn’t make fun of Harry twice, don’t even try it with that bullshit. Because 1D has also made fun of her. And thats great for those people, they are mature, just like Taylor is.

          • Duckyhoward15

            She made fun of him twice keep on ignoring facts your baby girl isn’t mature , I am done with you really

          • Anon

            She didn’t. Didn’t make fun of him at the VMAs, didn’t make fun of him at the Grammys either (don’t give me that british accent crap), and ikywt is not about harry. Not ignoring any facts. My baby girl is actually very mature. I would actually think that the most charitable celebrity of the year would be the most mature in fact. And weren’t you really done with me a long time ago?? I guess not :)

          • Duckyhoward15

            ALOT of celebs do charity but don’t tell people about it , everyone said she was making fun of him but her deluded swifties deny it lol

          • Anon

            Just because “everyone” (directioners) believes it doesn’t mean its true. And wow, weren’t you telling me not to insult you before, but now you’re insulting me? I can easily say you are also deluded in believing everything the media says about her. And she does so much charity anonymously too. You never hear about her going to hospitals unless their family members tweet about it. Lol

          • Duckyhoward15

            Not just directioners articles were written about , people believe it cos she made it clear twice and she didn’t even deny it so ? , being called deluded isn’t an insult its like being called dreamy and sorry if it was an insult no I see photos of her when she goes and does ‘charity’ kitten , I study media so I know what to believe and what not to believe , she rted and articles about her doing british accent :D

          • Anon

            Yes, articles written by the manipulative media who know her name will bring in the viewers. And the media said she told Harry to “shut the fuck up” at the VMAs, but even Ed denied that. Taylor never says anything anyways. And being called deluded doesn’t mean being called dreamy LOL. When she went to visit a girl in the hospital who had been hit by a car, no one knew about it until the girl’s family started tweeting about it and what a great person Taylor was. No one knew Taylor painted guitars for sick children either until Ed talked about it. And what about the times 1D mentioned her during their concert and when Louis didn’t even clap for her when she won? Thats pretty immature too. I thought you were really done with me, but you seem to keep coming back, friend :)

          • Duckyhoward15

            You know one thing before I go Louis mentioned her one time in a concert and they talked about her exactly four times in interviewers when Harry kept saying how amazing she is even though his team asked interviewers to stop asking him about her

          • Anon

            Correction: Louis made fun of her in a concert one time, Louis didn’t clap for her, and Liam called her lame. They always brought her up in interviews, obviously for promo. Their team WANTS people to ask about Taylor, because she’s Taylor Swift and that = publicity. Taylor has never blatantly said Harry’s name before and she doesn’t get asked about him in interviews, except for when the publishers edit his name in the question afterwards. You know why? Because she ACTUALLY tells them not to mention him. And if you’re really going this time (probably not), then goodbye friend ;)

          • Duckyhoward15

            Lol honey kitten baby cupcake THEIR TEAM ASKED THAT PEOPLE DONOT MENTION HER NAME AGAINA FTER THE VMAS THE BOYS DONOT NEED PUBLICITY FROM TAYLOR THEY ARE THE BIGGEST BAND ON THE PLANET

          • Anon

            Oh look, you’re back!! And wow, your string of nicknames makes you look real intelligent ;) At their movie premier the interviewers kept asking about her and even recently lol. And doesn’t matter if they are the biggest boyband on the planet (currently), publicity is always good. Wasn’t Haylor supposed to be publicity? What about Kylie and Harry now? All publicity buddy. Not to mention Taylor is one of the most successful people of all time.

          • LikeICare

            Why not call the dogs out? to warn the other women about him, she got over Joe in case you don’t know he still talks about her in interviews, and she never bullied anybody. The term bullying is for children, she stood up for herself

          • Duckyhoward15

            Well insulting people is actually bullying , well he talks about her when they ask him about her and the quote says if you don’t have something nice to say don’t say anything at all

          • LikeICare

            She can say what she wants since he cheated on her, if it was me I’d punch him in the face, fuck him.

          • Duckyhoward15

            You need to move on and forget people to get better , punching , bashing , hating etc will end and nothing will change , stay classy ;)

          • LikeICare

            i’d rather stick up for myself than be a punching bag hun

          • Duckyhoward15

            To each their own :)

          • LikeICare

            you still call her taywhore dont even try booboo

          • Duckyhoward15

            I never called her taywhore love

          • LikeICare

            but your whole fandom does love

          • Duckyhoward15

            Well swifties call harry a pig does that mean you do too babe ?

          • LikeICare

            Taywhore trended once, because of directioners, ‘harry styles is a pig’ never did.

          • Duckyhoward15

            No but directioners deserve cancer trended once :)

          • Anon

            LOL, already told you how it was a troll account and it was directioners themselves who kept using the hashtag :)

          • Duckyhoward15

            No this is your excuse
            I SAW THE TWEETS WITH MY OWN EYES mostly her male fans tweeted it cupcake

          • Anon

            Its not an excuse, its the truth. I also have a pair of my own eyes and there were literally no swifties tweeting that. And all the male fans I know are really respectful, “kitten”. But “taywhore” was ACTUALLY trended by directioners, along with LOTS of other rude things. Its quite laughable how mad fans got, tbh

          • Duckyhoward15

            Lol I have a blog on tumblr and people keep insulting harry in haylor tag lol

          • Anon

            I LEGIT LAUGHED SO HARD AT THIS. Go search the Haylor tag on twitter and probably more than 90% are directioners insulting her.

          • Duckyhoward15

            Well go search the tag on tumblr kitten

          • Anon

            I did and you know what I found? Many more things insulting Taylor, actually and just a bunch of haylor pics. Sorry babe, you failed again. Now about you go try the Twitter tag and try talking. Oh wait…

          • LikeICare

            how about you stop being so cocky and go back to 1d instead of saying we say horrible things about cancer, bc we fucking didnt and if you go to the taywhore tag you find people oh i mean directioners supporting animal abuse bc ‘i will cut her and kill her cat’ get the fuck off ok

          • Duckyhoward15

            I don’t get why you are really mad , I was taking it all as a joke and never meant to piss anyone off , yes some of your fandom tweet things that were horrible and yes some of mine did the same with Taylor and we both can do nothing about , I was trying to have fun with you guys but you turned it all to big thing and I don’t know what to say but sorry if it made you so mad and one more thing I amn’t cocky and I amn’t the one who started the argument , have a nice day .

          • Anon

            LOL no, you were quite clearly not taking it as a joke. We aren’t mad, just defending our idol while you try to bring her down. That actually makes you seem kinda mad. And your fandom STILL tweets horrible things about her. Just today on tumblr I saw directioners making up a story about how they met Taylor and she was a bitch (it was obviously not true because Taylor has free m&gs). Once again, don’t try to turn this into a “I was just trying to have fun with you guys” thing because you sound like you’re pitying yourself. And last time I checked, you were also a big part of the 80 comments left here. You kinda are cocky, you act like you know things about Taylor when your really don’t. You may also have a great day friend.

          • Duckyhoward15

            Wait a second are you the same person ? cos you sound alike , I wasn’t trying to bring her down , I was stating that Harry doesn’t care what people thing even if they are rude in general didn’t insult her or call her names , I stated what I saw on twitter and tumblr , I defended harry when swifties called him a bad boyfriend and I saw on twitter people hurt and crying cos of the cancer trend you try to make it all sound like you are all good and my fandom is bad , I amn’t the one who started the argument , I amn’t cocky , you clearly don’t know what cocky means love , I ignored your comments as I promised but don’t you dare make it like a real thing when at the end of the day these celebs don’t care about any of this , it was fun till you started insulting me .

          • Anon

            No, we are not the same person, I don’t have an account here. You kept on claiming that Taylor bullies people and that she is immature even though 1D has also talked about her. And I already told you that I misunderstood you, since the article is about Taylor and Harry only. And just like that other person said, of course every fandom has bad people but my problem is also that there are so many nasty directioners towards her who clearly outweigh the swifties by a huge number. Its a majority of your fandom. And for some unknown reason, no matter how many times we tell you, you keep insisting that we trended the cancer thing. Its pathetic, because we didn’t and you know it. I already told you why I think you’re cocky too. And you didn’t ignore my comments, loool. You replied to every single one of them, babe. Plus, I never insulted you. I just said your fandom believes in so many rumors about her. None of this was ever fun. I don’t want to keep fighting with you, I honestly don’t think you’re a bad person. Obviously this whole thing was stupid, I just felt the need to defend my idol since she gets so much hate for no reason. You seem like a cool person though, so no hard feelings :)

          • Duckyhoward15

            First I ignored your comments when I said I will leave second I amn’t cocky and you didn’t tell me why you think so and finally I said I saw tweets about ti so its impossible to tell me no one of your fandom joined the trend , I said she was a teen like them and did like them not that what they did is right or that she did as bad as they did , you are cool too <3

          • LikeICare

            btw, we did join the trend to DEFEND ourselves, not to say ‘yaa 1d fans deserve cancer’ also sorry for replying three days afterwards but i just have to say this :/

          • Duckyhoward15

            Its okay :) , well you some of you are really nice and I can’t deny it , thank you <3

          • LikeICare

            again, we didnt start the trend…

            stop bc it hurts me too since i’ve had a person in my family die bc of cancer

          • Duckyhoward15

            I am sorry for that , I will shut up then , I am sure he/she is in a better place , my grandad died cos of it and it sucks

          • LikeICare

            omg im sorry for u too, hes in my prayers <3

          • Duckyhoward15

            This is so sweet from you , God bless you and your family :* <3

          • Anon

            Aww, this is so cute. And I’m sorry for both of your families, its happened to me too <3

          • Duckyhoward15

            Aww baby you are so nice , God bless you and your family, I hope one day Cancer will finally disappear or something <3 :*

          • LikeICare

            omg can u give me link to the tumblr post? bullshit lmao

          • Anon

            http://thanksforsayingthat.tumblr.com/post/68394680475/im-a-1d-fan-and-was-a-taylor-swift-fan-but-i-went-to-a

            I’m not sure if it works because i’ve never posted a link before, but yeah lol. Its not a big deal or anything, it just shows how pathetic people can be sometimes.

          • LikeICare

            my problem is that there are so many of you that are really nasty and then they say they are joking, telling someone to go die isnt joking.. and I’m sorry too, I did overreact, i dont hate you, i just hate the fact that this lady is getting so much hate for nothing, and you too have a nice day, much love -x

          • Duckyhoward15

            I didn’t wish her death and I didn’t hate on her , I never meant to make it go that far , it was just a website , if she gets hate its normal cos she is a celeb but at the end of the day she is doesn’t care cos she has what she wants while the others don’t , its fine , same to you <3

          • LikeICare

            a troll account started that and you know it, that person also trended #directionerssupportsyriabombing or something simliar so by ur logic you trended that u horrible person

          • Duckyhoward15

            Lol , I saw tweets from swifties and I saw a girl who her sister had cancer fighting with a swiftie so

          • Anon

            LOL EXACTLY, and Taylor does so much for childhood cancer like why would swifties even trend that it wouldn’t make any sense

  • leggoofmahmeggo

    I don’t see what’s wrong with ignoring him. I think that either way they would of bashed her. If she said hi, “Taylor still in love with Harry!” I don’t know. I’ve ignored exes, but I guess I’m just not famous.

  • kat

    Geeze people hate on her if she says something and gets upset if she keeps quiet. He didn’t make an effort to speak or look at her either. Why is she the bad person? Its not like they’re besties. And he is there with his supposed new date Kendall. She had no reason to give him any attention. She can’t go to an award show without getting hate.

  • cerenagee

    Honestly, why is it such a big deal if she doesn’t look at her ex? Who cares. Since when is it a requirement to be friends with your ex? Maybe she was just tired of all the possible dating rumors that have come up again. The last time she was seen looking at him at an awards show and she was laughing that was her talking shit. Then if she looks at him then ohh Taylor might be into him still and now its a big deal that she didn’t look at him at all? WHO CARES