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Well she's trying to get a man and plus she's a hoe
Well she's trying to get a man and plus she's a hoe
She's so elegant and hot!
skanky
HOT
BEAUTIFUL!
What a bitch making fun of making Justin cry
Can she get anymore sluttier!!!
I still don't think she's that pretty. OU, I don't know why you're so obsessed with her.
they're joking
Bitch comment, but it was funny anyway cause Justin's a douche.
She got so bitchy now
That was so trashy...
lets make this clear all the comments coming after me is going to talk shit about selena. even though every post about justin the same people talk shit about him.
goo.....
I said it from the beginning she was using Justin for fame she got what she wanted and made him cry look how she acting like she don't give two flying fuck for someone who help her a lot getting her nail company,perfume and the neo contract she is been super ungrateful bitch. Like Demi said she used her boyfriend and she only says what fans want to hear in other word she a hyprocrite who fooling her fans.
OMG SHE'S SO BITCHY. But that has so confirmed he did cheat on her, otherwise she would have never said that and that way.
that was so mean
I hope Justin write about all her secrets about her using him and her friends and other guys I hope he has the balls to write Selena true colors
You never make fun of someone feeling this show her true colors she not as nice as you all think
well all of you who are now going to make 'fun' of Selena... good luck
Selena is messing with the wrong guy nick was nice not to write about her because he felt guilty about loving miley while going out with her but Justin has no problem in dissing her and showing her true colors
I have to say I've never really liked her because I hate when celebrities act all sugary sweet and deny all problems and conflicts and pretend it's all rainbows etc. but I LOVED that. Good for her!
I hope Justin write about her secrets about her using him and her friends and other guys I hope he has the balls to write Selena true colors
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Holy shit that would be totally awsome!!!!! hahahahaha
I just don't get why would Selena publicly laugh at Justin's heartbreak on National television? Please, grow up.
I like Selena, but telling the world that you made your ex bf cry is a low blow. Maturity always outshines immaturity.
Comparing this interview VS. the ones she did while promoting Hotel Transylvania, she's SO much more bubbly and happy. I love it.
She needs to get over herself and stop being a bitter old hag. And i'm not even a bieber fan
im somehow happy that selena said what she said bc now maybe justin will get over her dumbass and find someone that actually cares about him
And see her true colors
Mar 18, 2013 @ 05:16 pm
Anonymous said:
I hope Justin write about all her secrets about her using him and her friends and other guys I hope he has the balls to write Selena true colors
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But I thought ya want him to focus on you guy now they break up you still want him to talk about her. Y'all beliebers are never satisfied
I agree. And looking at Justin and his whole behaviour make him look like a total douchebag.
I hope she'll finally meet someone whom she truly derserves and can make her happy because she really is a sweetheart, too bad she's too sweet and often taken for granted or being cheated on.
Is anyone really surprised that Selena shaded Justin again. She does it like twice a week now.
Selena must feel so stupid because this time not even her fans can defend her. Thinking its okay to make someone cry, is a form of bullying.
Inteviewer: “How’s Selena?” Justin: “The Believe Tour is going great i’m glad you asked” THIS IS WHAT I CALL MATURE.
Selena must feel stupid when her younger boyfriend acts more maturely than her
If you're boyfriend cheated on you so publicly you would want to get back at him in some way. So all bieber fans need to calm down.
Love that coat hate the dress
LOL don't call her a slut because she stuck up for herself--it's incredibly sexist to suggest that a woman cannot make a joke about her past relationship and that she ought to be compliant and not say anything at all
I hope you guys all realize that she's acting more sassy and confident because she has nothing to worry about in terms of Justin saying bad things about her. She did nothing wrong in the relationship. Selena LOVED Justin, and Justin loved Selena, but unfortunately Justin CHEATED on her. So she can basically say whatever she wants. She doesn't have to worry about backlash from Justin. He's gonna let her say whatever because he messed up. This is her way of getting over him.
Quiero tener sexo con ella tan mal! Ella es tan caliente! Quiero hacer su coño mojado!
It's funny how if Justin were to shade Selena people would be cheering for him but when Selena BARELY shades him she gets shit for it. So much faith in humanity.
Bitch he made you relevant if she don't shut her ass up. fucking slut
immature
Selena made fun of JB, said she was embarrassed to kiss him in public & admitted making him cry. She's 20, isn't she meant to be mature???
She's actually such a bitch. I don't like Justin at all but it was obvious she was the one using him, and now is trying to make it look like he was the one obsessed with her...can she get any more trashy?
Now she copying taylor
Lmfao, looks like her "bff" Taylor is rubbing off on her. What a joke.
She is such a bitch!!!
Who said that he cheated on her?
I defend her! Honest girl ... In the end, it does not hide the feelings!
STFU! You're an idiot!
seriously, can someone explain to me why selena dated justin for so long? cause, she never liked him!
i hope everyone knows that she really wasn't "bullying" him..it was obviously a joke. haters are annoying
It's funny how if Justin were to shade Selena people would be cheering for him but when Selena BARELY shades him she gets shit for it. So much faith in humanity.
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Lmfao that's soo not true. If he were to say anything bad about her, he would get attacked, all of his actions are judged WAY more than hers. People are way ruder to him about stuff that they wouldn't care as much about from another person. And I am not saying this as a fan of his at all, I find he can be quite immature, but the reason she is getting shit for this is because it is soo immature and she's just being a bitch about the whole thing.
seriously, can someone explain to me why selena dated justin for so long? cause, she never liked him!
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*cough* publicity *cough*
Me: I can't sing for shit
Selena: Well that makes two of us
hahahahahahhahaha lolololllll, that was really immature on her but everyone makes mistakes. He cheated on her so screw him
guys he fucking cheated on her she's gonna talk shit all she wants cause she can he knows it.
Oh my gosh she's changed so much since she became famous she's so full of herself she let fame get to her.
I think Vanessa made her bitchy.
Yes! That was awesome
Selena's just mad cause Justin told the world that she's an alcoholic in Nothing Like Us
Scooter just called her arrogant
i love it!!
the beliebers are so mad and i love it
What on earth was she thinking when she decided on that dress? It is absolutely freezing outside in NY, i live here so I would know. She must have been frozen.
Thank goodness!! I've always rooted for Miley cause she was so outspoken and Selena was all nice and prim.. But I have to say, I AM LOVING THIS SELENA. Very honest and sassy and actually speaks her mind. Keep it up chica, just watch the haters as you leave them behind!
My little Sel is all grown up!! :'(
Anonymous said:
Me: I can't sing for shit
Selena: Well that makes two of us
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lol
Selena, Ariana and Taylor act all sweet and innocent but they're really bitchy irl lol
She looks pretty, hair and makeup wise. I'm not feeling the dress/shirt but I NEED thgat jacket. But poor Justin, kicking someone when their down is nagl. Tacky. I'd understand if it was like back and forth bickering but its all coming from her and he's just kept quiet. I just find it rude, regardless of what happened, because who does that to someone they loved and dated for so long? Especially with all his troubles lately. She comes across as a mean girl.
OoOoOoO Here come the haters! Suck it up bitches. Once justin sees this, he's gonna do something just the same & then what are you gonna say?! -- And then I'll get someone to reply to this and say "Justin would never do that!" Oh please. Let the Selena Justin war begin!
You're a jackass!
That wasn't very nice, but it was totally hilarious!
lmfaoo, that was priceless
Poor justin? Because of a little joke? You lot in to grow up! You don't know how they left things. You all act like you have an inside view into their personal life. He'll probably find this funny. Jheeze. Beliebers make me sick.
She can say whatever she wants! It's their relationship. Between him and her and nobody else!! As much as you might think you are.
I honestly feel sorry for his next girlfriend. Unless its Miley, no one else can handle the hate and death threats Selena received dating him.
I have a feeling he will be single for a while. Actually probably both.
Go selena!! good for her!!!
lol I think that was funny, justin comes off as douchey so no, I don't feel bad.
What would be priceless is if Justin was confronted about this like so:
Interviewer: So Selena said that she made you cry...
Justin: She did make me cry, she wasn't lying. She tried to sing to me live once, without a backing track. I had to morn the death of the song she murdered.
Honestly, I'll believe all those cheating rumors when someone brings me proof. I think Selena has tried to shade him enough at this point. She's fair game now.
JUSTIN CHEATED ON HER! I THINK SHE CAN DISS HIM WHENEVER! GO GIRL
It was a joke. It was funny. Get over it.
"OMG SHEE IS SOOO BITCHYYY"........
come on guys if you think that is bitchy you guys are too sensitive
she pulled a taylor.
You guys haters is very weird..
Keep on hating...it's a joke,whats so mean about it??
What taylor swift did when she keep attacking joe when they broke up thats what u can called mean.
u know it's funny when peolpe says that she used Bieber for fame, she was already famos, even before Justin, when Justin was in his home, Selena was on Barney and then on Disney and in Movies and Justin was at HOME, what do you say about that? You're just jealous that she was Justin's girlfriend...
u know it's funny when peolpe says that she used Bieber for fame, she was already famos, even before Justin, when Justin was in his home, Selena was on Barney and then on Disney and in Movies and Justin was at HOME, what do you say about that? You're just jealous that she was Justin's girlfriend...
Proud of Selena for finally taking a stand.
Jelena drama is incredibly annoying. But Justin's a nice guy, he's letting Selena ride off their overrated break up to stay relevant (;
Selena's proud when she makes someone cry. She LAUGHS at their pain & kicks them when they're down. How can anyone idolise her?
Dear Selenators, Don't even sit there and try to defend Selena, you look stupid, because this time you know she was VERY wrong.
It is tacky and low class to say bad things about an ex. Best to keep it classy and say nothing. She sounds like an immature grade school girl and she's promoting a movie in which she plays a sexy college girl? For real?
If Justin could, he would've shaded Selena but he didn't. You wanna know why? bc Pattie raised him better than that.
Damn..I wasn't a Selena fan until today. That was hilarious.
Justin bieber is a joke. Even all the believers are a big joke. They says hateful shit all the time. Then when she says oh me too, they threaten her . Really? You're a joke to most everyone. Doesn't matter how much twitter followers he has or money he will always be a joke.
”Justin cheated on her, what do you expect? He deserves it”. Stop talking out your ass none of us know that and tbh it was a joke nothing bitchy about it. Not to me at least. Selena has made it very clear though that she's not innocent and has low self esteem. Justin + his beliebers + Selena + Selenas low self esteem = Disaster.
I still feel like their 'relationship' was publicity.
When they 1st met it was a setup from Scooter and Selena's Momanager. Contract up? Who knows, none of us might never know.
Actually he did worse things to her. You don't know all the story btw. He wrote a pretty low song about her and he claimed he was the good guy and then made fun of her on Instagram. Oh, I forgot publicly humiliated her you know by being a sneaky little bitch and cheated on her.
She made a freaking joke. You guys always get at Selenas framing neck like she personally attacked you. Jesus.
Selena had been famous for years before she started dating Justin. He was just becoming somebody people knew outside of YouTube when they started dating. I don't think either of them were using each other. BUT if it was that, it was him who came up a little because of her. Selena will last in Hollywood because she's a skilled, down to Earth actress. Justin will soon be nobody because he's a no talent, spiraling out of control Usher wannabe.
Quiero propagar las piernas de Selena y insertar mi pene erecto en su hermoso coño. Quisiera hacer sin un condón demasiado. QUIERO disparar mi semen en ella. QUIERO impregnar Selena.
Many young girls look up to Selena. What message does it send to them when she laughs about making another person cry? It's disrespectful.
Selena's proud when she makes someone cry. She LAUGHS at their pain & kicks them when they're down. How can anyone idolise her?
"Justin doesn't mention Selena bc he doesn't need her but shes always mentioning him bc she needs the fame" true
She's a b*tch and I've always known it. Even when she wanted to act like a "sweet" princess. When they were first dating she had no problem rudely telling interviewers "she didn't want to talk about her relationship" but now that they've broken up she has no problem openly insulted him.
And, I can't STAND Justin or Selena so thats' saying a lot.
Todas Selena aborrecedores son unos maricones! Lo siento, pero es la verdad!
I bet the majority of you on here are preteens that have never been in a relationship before. Because yes, when you break up with someone (who actually exists) you tend to react this way to your friends and family. And it so happens that she has a media outlet. Obviously its its her way of coping with a break up, maybe not the best. But you can tell shes trying hard to act like shes cool about it anyways. When you grow up and get a boyfriend, then you'll see how dumb you guys are for talking smack about her when she was actually cracking a joke.
Me encanta coño! said:
Quiero propagar las piernas de Selena y insertar mi pene erecto en su hermoso coño. Quisiera hacer sin un condón demasiado. QUIERO disparar mi semen en ella. QUIERO impregnar Selena.
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lmao. Ew.
Lol. The shade. *gets popcorn*
But on a better note, Selena looks hawt as hell! I love when she takes out that awful weave lol
I bet the majority of you on here are preteens that have never been in a relationship before. Because yes, when you break up with someone (who actually exists) you tend to react this way to your friends and family.
Obviously its its her way of coping with a break up, maybe not the best. But you can tell shes trying hard to act like shes cool about it anyways. When you grow up and get a boyfriend, then you'll see how dumb you guys are for talking smack about her when she was actually cracking a joke.
That was so fckn funny! hahaha
I feel bad that she's gonna get hated on even more now, but ahahah that was funny.
Give credit when its due, y'all know damn well Selena had fame but wasn't known famously until she started dating Justin. Before Justin I could mention Selena and people thought I was talking about Selena Quintanilla Perez. When they started dating it became ”Who? Biebers GF?”
Oh and one last thing, it was funny stop being so sensitive. Let her cope she was joking.
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Personally, I'd be suprised if there was any comment from both. Shows that the relationship was real. Normal people react to break ups this way. I sure as hell did. Even said worse, so not a big deal. And him going through whatever you lot claim he's going through, doesn't mean she can ignore her feelings from the breakup. She's human, not a vampire. Though that would be freaking cool!
She looks stunning!!
1. To all of you dating that you would do the same... She's about to be 21 and I'm 17 I have room to be immature and say things like that she doesn't. She cod have maturely left it at I'm single.
2. It was kind of funny though but it would be funnier if she were between the ages of 15-18
3. The people saying she didn't use him for fame... Wake up she did. You can pretend she was so famous before Bieber but in all honesty she was the other Disney girl that Demi is friends with and Miley hates. After she got with Bieber she became more important. Yeah she had work before him but Demi had work before rehab and nobody cared. At first I guessed that it was publicity then I slowly except they they were a real couple and actually started to like them together. This just confirmed it.
4. I'm unsure if Bieber actually cheated. If she made him would she have had to break up with hip and all these girls he supposedly cheated on with her were all upgrades (let's be honest threat are all prettier... Sorry Selena). Plus of he's the d-bag everybody seems to be convinced he is, he wouldn't care if he and Selena broke up and he definitely wouldn't regret cheating. D-bags don't care. Just saying!
Now we definitely know she don't care what anyone says, especially you freaking beliebers! This girl is FIERCE!
LOOL! about if she was 15-18!! I know older people(through my older sister) who did way worse than make a joke about making him cry! They bloody humiliated the dude, burnt his crap and then cried all night. So don't give me that crap, it's VERY common for someone her age. Good that that's all she did. And all your other point are just recycled and to be honest, irreverent. So wont even comment on that.
I agree. It's very common for girls around her ages to retaliate. She's just getting it out of her system. Doesn't mean she hates the guy. Beliebers make it seem like she directly insulted him. If anything, it shows that he's sensitive, which is a plus in my book. Imo
So many things grammatically incorrect with my comment so I am aploligozing lol. I'm the one with the numbers. It may be above idk.
Haven't we had enough of this "who made whom famous" or "their relationship was for PR" crap?! It would seem you are just stuck in the past with all that. Lets just move on.
Both their careers are good, one more thriving than the other but I am sure we'll be hearing their names for a long time.
But seriously, lets move with the times, and leave those childish comments behind.
Done.
Haven't we had enough of this "who made whom famous" or "their relationship was for PR" crap?! It would seem you are just stuck in the past with all that. Lets just move on.
Both their careers are good, one more thriving than the other but I am sure we'll be hearing their names for a long time.
But seriously, lets move with the times, and leave those childish comments behind.
Done.
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AMEN TO THAT, SISTER!
She's looks so beautiful and I love that dress and jacket! Just gorgeous, Selena!
bieber did for her what she wanted. after she got it she dropped him. no need for him anymore..
Her style has evolved so much. Good for her.
@Haylor4lyfe
you seriously have my favorite icon
at least she's wearing underwear and bra..
I guess this Bieber vs Selena war will be on forever... It's a mad world we live in.
Just because every body does it doesn't mean it's mature. You can't comment on my other stuff cause its true. My sister who is 19...FREAKING 19 doesn't act like that. She can do what she wants in private, make fun of Bieber and all of that but at the end of the day that is public. She should have more maturity (which she normally does). I have noting against Selena. I prefer her but I don't hate her I'm judging her like I would any other 20 year old. She is an adult, she should act like one.
Oh yeah let's all go hate on Selena for the joke she made just because Justin is more famous than her, I guess just because of that she risked her life and put up with constant disrespect, death threats, hate and sick wishes upon her for almost three years, also why she had to deal with a police case because her boyfriend physically attacked someone and left leaving her to deal with it, why she had to tolerate the mocking from not only fans but the whole media because of the age difference, I guess we should all ignore that just because he is more famous right? I guess Justin can publicly humillate her at a fashion show, cheat on her and she has to suck it up cause he's more famous right? I guess Justin being an absolute douche bag to EVERYONE doesn't count. I guess she's not just a hard working, nice girl who's bitter after a long and rocky relationship but a fucking scum of earth who does everything wrong.
Let's go on and fucking hate on her for the fucking joke but let's ignore the fact that she's committed to social causes, does charity, is a sweetheart to her fans, sets up a good example, stays grounded and works her fucking ass off, just because Bieber is more famous than her I guess it makes her an attention whore to have feelings. My bad.
hey you go oceanup
justin response to selena http://just-biebernews.tumblr.com/image/45727622190
*i don't prefer her
IF YOU ARE A SELENA HATER, THEN YOU ARE A COCK SUCKING PIECE OF SHIT!
Lmao Love her!!! She's acting like a normal girl who got cheated on and Doesn't care about the guy!
Then clearly you must have something in the water you guys drink over there. Before there's no way, you'll break up with someone who you have dated for 2 WHOLE YEARS and think oh that's cool. I think she has every right to behave that way.
Don't say you have nothing against her cause your words and CHOICE of words, say otherwise. Don't even try it.
Just because I don't comment on the other things don't mean they are true. Most times, silence is the better answer for a fool.
Oh yeah let's all go hate on Selena for the joke she made just because Justin is more famous than her, I guess just because of that she risked her life and put up with constant disrespect, death threats, hate and sick wishes upon her for almost three years, also why she had to deal with a police case because her boyfriend physically attacked someone and left leaving her to deal with it, why she had to tolerate the mocking from not only fans but the whole media because of the age difference, I guess we should all ignore that just because he is more famous right? I guess Justin can publicly humillate her at a fashion show, cheat on her and she has to suck it up cause he's more famous right? I guess Justin being an absolute douche bag to EVERYONE doesn't count. I guess she's not just a hard working, nice girl who's bitter after a long and rocky relationship but a fucking scum of earth who does everything wrong.
Let's go on and fucking hate on her for the fucking joke but let's ignore the fact that she's committed to social causes, does charity, is a sweetheart to her fans, sets up a good example, stays grounded and works her fucking ass off, just because Bieber is more famous than her I guess it makes her an attention whore to have feelings. My bad.
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THANK FREAKING YOU!! Someone with common sense!
She had a choice to weather to deal with that or not if she chose the wrong thing that is her fault. She is well aware of his fame and the consequences so its all on her. Nobody forced her to stay relationship like that. And you can't blame Justin for his idiotic fans. He can tell them not to do something but he can't personally stop them.
As for her doing charity buts people still hate on her. Miley does plenty of charity in which the public can't always see and people still hate on her. But let's not go there because its ok to ignore double standards. Justin also does charity that doesn't change how he can be immature and people (you) still point out his mistakes
She had a choice to weather to deal with that or not if she chose the wrong thing that is her fault. She is well aware of his fame and the consequences so its all on her. Nobody forced her to stay relationship like that. And you can't blame Justin for his idiotic fans. He can tell them not to do something but he can't personally stop them.
As for her doing charity buts people still hate on her. Miley does plenty of charity in which the public can't always see and people still hate on her. But let's not go there because its ok to ignore double standards. Justin also does charity that doesn't change how he can be immature and people (you) still point out his mistakes
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So this made no sense at all. That is all.
Even though I am speaking against Selena this so the only thing she has done so far that I think is stupid.
And to those of you saying this is how she is supposed to act. Justin is a 19 year old hurt boy (I believe they were both hurt on the breakup) so maybe he is acting annoying and like a d-bag but that's how he is handling it. If Selena can act immature and say things like that Justin should be able to act how he is acting. A lot of you are giving her a break but not him. If he cheated that's his business and he most likely regrets it. Some times guilt makes you do crazy things... Just saying
She had a choice to weather to deal with that or not if she chose the wrong thing that is her fault. She is well aware of his fame and the consequences so its all on her. Nobody forced her to stay relationship like that. And you can't blame Justin for his idiotic fans. He can tell them not to do something but he can't personally stop them.
As for her doing charity buts people still hate on her. Miley does plenty of charity in which the public can't always see and people still hate on her. But let's not go there because its ok to ignore double standards. Justin also does charity that doesn't change how he can be immature and people (you) still point out his mistakes
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Loool what exactly is your point here? One minute I think I agree, then I don't. What are you saying?
She had a choice to weather to deal with that or not if she chose the wrong thing that is her fault. She is well aware of his fame and the consequences so its all on her. Nobody forced her to stay relationship like that. And you can't blame Justin for his idiotic fans. He can tell them not to do something but he can't personally stop them.
As for her doing charity buts people still hate on her. Miley does plenty of charity in which the public can't always see and people still hate on her. But let's not go there because its ok to ignore double standards. Justin also does charity that doesn't change how he can be immature and people (you) still point out his mistakes
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Loool what exactly is your point here? One minute I think I agree, then I don't. What are you saying? That she shouldn't have dated someone she really liked because of what people will think? Or that it's okay to hate because everyone else gets hate?
If you read what I'm replying to it should and if it still doesn't then that's your problem not mine.
Even though I am speaking against Selena this so the only thing she has done so far that I think is stupid.
And to those of you saying this is how she is supposed to act. Justin is a 19 year old hurt boy (I believe they were both hurt on the breakup) so maybe he is acting annoying and like a d-bag but that's how he is handling it. If Selena can act immature and say things like that Justin should be able to act how he is acting. A lot of you are giving her a break but not him. If he cheated that's his business and he most likely regrets it. Some times guilt makes you do crazy things... Just saying
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See? Now this makes sense. I completely agree. If you are going to give Selena grief for acting immature, it's only fair that you do it to Justin too. Boys tend to act in a more aggressive way to a break up anyway so in a way, they are both just getting their frustration out.
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(replying to this) - Mar 18, 2013 @ 08:40 pm
Anonymous said:
If you read what I'm replying to it should and if it still doesn't then that's your problem not mine.
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Oh, I saw it. Just doesn't make sense. But let's leave it at that.
Argh! Why is she so pretty? No fair
All I'm saying is she had a choice to stay with Justin even with all the death threats and what not, so to turn it around on Justin (as the person I'm replying did) is wrong. She chose that relationship. Weather it was worth it or not is up to her. I wasn't saying anything is right or wrong I'm just saying she had a choice. Maybe I wasn't clear enough but it is about 11 pm where I live and I have been up since 3 am so my brain is a little bit off right now.
Right I see. I understand now. Was not clear before. But don't you think her breaking his heart because she couldn't handle the death threats is worse? I'd rather be with someone against all odds, knowing we might have something great, than give up because it was too hard.
PS I totally get you! It's 3AM where I am and I've up since 8AM. #CaptainOfTeamInsomniacs
Oh and when I say "but lets not go there because it's ok to ignore double standards" that was sarcasm
I see she finally grew some balls and is speaking her mind
I give her props. She had to deal with soooo much shit her whole relationship with him from his crazy ass fans, and his random bouts of freaking the hell out in public, I think she deserves to finally get it out. So I high five her.
And it's completely normal for someone of ANY age to shade an ex like that after a bad break up. I've seen women a lot older then her pull some crazy shit
Of course
Idk why but I just have been able to sleep.
I have no idea what's right. I have never been and will probably never be in that situation and I thank God lol.
(replying to this) - Mar 18, 2013 @ 08:58 pm
Anonymous said:
Idk why but I just have been able to sleep.
I have no idea what's right. I have never been and will probably never be in that situation and I thank God lol.
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Lool I hope so too. Just a hopeless romantic! Blame the range novels. Loool