Duggars ‘Babies Aren’t Tissue Blobs’

duggar-girlspattie-kidsDuggar family of TLC’s 19 Kids & Counting have long been outspoken pro-life advocates, with dad Jim Bob publicly claiming that ‘many women are having a lifetime of regret’ after having the The eldest Duggar girls from TLC’s 16 Kids & Counting Jana, Jill, Jinger and Jessa spoke to Radar Online about their abortion views: ‘Don’t allow anyone to talk you into taking the life of your child. Your baby is not a blob of tissue! ..It’s a baby from the time it is conceived.

Even though this is happening out of God’s designed order, He loves you both and will forgive you. Abortion might seem like a quick fix to a big problem, but we personally know several women who have done this,

And they have said they regret ending the life of their baby; it haunts them every day. You cannot get un-pregnant. If you are pregnant, take responsibility and take care of yourself and your baby and God will take care of you.’

Pattie Mallette chose not to abort Justin Bieber & wants more kids.

  • laura

    1. They clearly didn’t pay attention during biology.
    2. They are fucking ignorant. What if you get raped? What if you can’t take care of the child and you know you won’t be giving it the love it should get? What if you still go to school?
    3. 16 kids? Never heard of condoms? Or are you simply out of your mind? You can’t take proper care of 16 kids, that’s a freaking madhouse.
    4. What the hell are they wearing?
    5. If you are pro life then please don’t reply because I’m not even going to waste my time talking to you because it’s a lost case anyway.

    • iWizard

      I believe you’re the one that’s ignorant. Having sex is a responsibility; if you’re not prepared for it, then you do not have the mental maturity to even make the choice of being sexually intimate. But you’re right, fighting you would be like beating a dead horse. Pointless.

      • asfwre

        Did you not read the second question about rape victims?

        • laura

          Thank you :)

        • iWizard

          Is abortion the only option? How about adoption?

          I’m speaking about women who CONSENT to sex, yet are shocked when they get pregnant.

          With great power comes great responsibility.

          • ikeepempressedt

            BOTH are options. Women can do whatever the fuck they want to do with their body’s.

          • Godney

            What about the woman who choose to have SAVE sex , like me, who uses the pill and condom but its not up to me for them to be 100% save.
            If i make the decition NOT to be a mother by using protection…why cant i have the same decition once the protection doesnt work?

      • aly

        Seriously, people have sex. Get over it. Yes , you need to have maturity to do it, you need to be informed that you need to use condoms, pills, or else you’ll get pregnant and/or contract STDs. So really, what teens need is not to stop sex and wait until marriage, they need to have proper sexual education. People are not going to just have sex when they marry or are prepared to have a baby. Not allowing teens to do it will only make the situation worse. That’s what happens with woman who are poor: they are uninformed, get pregnant and don’t have conditions to raise the child. So they make abortion, because they know their child will only die starving. This whole thing of “God will take care of you and your baby” is so not what happens.

        • Queen Amanda Bynes
        • Marina And My Diamonds

          I agree with everything you wrote but:
          “This whole thing of “God will take care of you and your baby” is so not what happens.”

          Whoa! I can understand if you don’t believe in him but God has taking care of me plenty of times. That’s all I wanted to say.

          • Godney

            Does god paid for your food as a baby?, did he pay for diapers?, for clothes?, no? oh ok

          • Marina And My Diamonds

            Yes, He did. God made a way when my Mother didn’t see one. It’s my faith please don’t be rude to me about it because I completely respect you and anyone else who don’t believe in Him.. but I do. Thank you, have a good one. :)

          • Godney

            Yet you didnt answer anything i said…
            Did he gave you food?, clothes? diapers? no? nothing of that?

          • Marina And My Diamonds

            I believe I did answer it, I said: “Yes, He did.” That was my answer to your question the first time and it’s the same answer to you the second time.

          • Godney

            So he did gave you food and clothes and diapers and that stuff? wow girl you got yourself a miracle… how did he send them to you? via mail? or did it drop out of the sky?

          • Marina And My Diamonds

            Lol I use to really like your post on here, you were funny. But I don’t appreciate your sarcasm to my faith so I’m going to end this provoked ‘argument’ now. Please do not ever reply to me again.

          • Godney

            But you still didnt answer me sweety.
            The whole “god will take care of your child” is bull shit… and thats true.
            I support if you think god can help in espiritual ways… but there is no way he will provide for a child.

          • Marina And My Diamonds

            It’s sad I have to put an edit here because of my recent replies.

            But anywho.

            Edit: By the way I’m not religious in any way.

        • Godney

          this!
          God and abortion should not even be together

      • laura
        • Giovanni

          No one asked you either, genius, but that didn’t stop you from spewing your hate.

          • laura

            I told people specifically not to reply to me when they were pro life but she did anyways. You can go on with your life now.

          • amy

            You shouldn’t comment if you don’t want replies. A forum like this is all about comments and responses. It is not a place for you to state your opinion while refusing to listen to the opinion of anyone else.

        • iWizard

          ;)

          • laura

            wow a picture of Britney. Maybe you should learn how to post gifs first..

          • iWizard

            Funny thing – I wasn’t trying to post a gif. But I guess you need a more visual representation of how moronic you sound. Forgive me.

          • laura

            Then what is the point of posting that picture? Really, it just looks stupid. No scratch that: you look stupid.

          • Godney

            Because Britney is amazing! lol

          • laura

            haha true but it still didn’t have a point :p

          • Godney

            lol no, but pro-life people never do

          • laura

            True. They have no arguments to support their opinion..

          • Godney

            Bunch of incultural-godfreaks-ignorant people tbh.

          • Godney

            Except the ones that are pro-life but accept the fact not all woman have to be pro-life

          • laura

            The thing is that it isn’t the religion that is the problem but the people who follow that religion blindly and refuse to have an opinion of their own.. Religion is about being a good person and spreading love, not about spewing hate. But a lot of people seem to forget about that. I am honestly glad I am not religious though.

      • Zaina777

        What about rape? Does rape and impregnation mean that you asked for it or that you have to choose to keep the baby? No, not everyone is ready for a child. Even if you have sex with your boyfriend you are still not thinking of having children or you shouldn’t be. Especially at a young, vulnerable and naive stage in their lives.

        Pregnancy should be a choice that you are ready for and if you aren’t you should have the choice to keep it or to get it out of your body. Simple as that.

        • threelittlebirds

          if a woman isn’t ready to get pregnant, probably should be using protection as well

          • laura

            Protection isn’t 100% safe. Accidents can always happen.

          • threelittlebirds

            that’s true, but should still be taken into consideration. condoms are cheaper than an abortion.

          • laura

            Thank god they are! haha in my opinion, they should make anti conception free.
            That being said, people use protection just because they aren’t ready yet to have a baby. I feel like a lot of people seem to forget that here.

          • Zaina777

            Yeah, but not if she is raped. Even i it is with their boyfriend yes I agree protection is always key in that situation.

        • iWizard

          Rape is something I wouldn’t wish on my worst enemy. In my opinion, the baby should not be put at fault for something so horrible.

          Biologically speaking, mothers are programmed to love their children even while in the womb.

          Even if science were fiction (pfft), I believe that if she gave birth to the child, if she still was reminded of the rape, then she could give the child up for adoption.

          Children are innocent and haven’t committed any wrong, so why should they be punished?

          • Zaina777

            They would be punished though if they were neglected when they were older. by the mother who didn’t even want them as a baby in the first place but decided to keep them due to guilt of abandoning something that they were part of creating…even if it was by accident.

          • M

            “Biologically speaking, mothers are programmed to love their children even while in the womb.”

            I can’t even find the word to describe how wrong you are, and you said it yourself if she “give” the child for adoption that is beacause she doesn’t want him, she doesn’t love him.
            IMO no child is better than a child that will live is entire life wondering why his mother didn’t want him. You people always bring up the “baby” but you don’t think about his future and by doing so you trick women into giving birth to someone who will end up crushed for life.

          • Godney

            This!, yes, some woman decide to keep the baby and love it as theirs… but not ALL woman have to decide that.

          • Godney

            “Biologically speaking, mothers are programmed to love their children even while in the womb.”
            THATS BULLSHIT!!

            SOME WOMAN JUST DONT HAVE THE MATERNAL ISNTINT IN THEM.

            I WOULD NEVER LOVE A THING INSIDE OF ME THAT CAME WITH RAPE! Never.

            “the baby should not be put at fault for something so horrible.”
            But the woman do?, should i have to take the fault for it? or should i just take the fault for 9 month and then sent the baby to the raper?

            “then she could give the child up for adoption.”…
            Right… because SOOOO many people adopt these days, all the countries in the world have wonderfull laws and everybody can adopt… dont be stupid.
            Most kids dont get adopted and have alot more chanse to end up in a fucked up life

      • Godney

        Do you even know the % of condoms or pills?
        Are you that dumb?
        And being mature enough to have sex is not the same as being mature enough to be a freaking parent

      • soft ghetto

        The world isn’t perfect. Sex is human nature and people are going to do it whether they’re responsible or not. My problem with the Duggars and people that are pro-life is that they shove their beliefs down people’s throats and harass women at clinics. If you don’t believe in abortions, then don’t get one. It’s that simple and there’s a reason why we have a CHOICE not an only option. I don’t understand why someone would invest so much time into telling a woman what she can and can’t do with her body.

    • Keen

      You have shown you are quite arrogant and uncivilized person. Unfortunately for you, you are foolish not to oblige into looking thoroughly of studying the concept of these AMAZING DUGGAR FAMILY. 16 kids and counting? Well I might say these family are alot smarter than you. ^_^ 1.) Having a big family is a good thing because as a parent(S) reach of age where they don’t work but receive pension, they’ll see that their bundle of joys are visiting them often because there are alot of them. It’s a CLOSE AND HAPPY family. Unlike you, the spoiled rotten face of the earth. 2.) The older children will take care of the younger children as the GOOD and CARING OLDER SIBLINGS they are. THEY have a HEART and they LOVE to care and ASSIST their parents while their parents take care of the toddler ones. 3.) THe best thing about having a lot of children is that it’s cheaper. Children learn to analyze how hard life is, it ain’t easy, they learn to respect, love, care, work hard to be the BEST CIVILIZED and SUCCESSFUL BEINGS they will be in their LIFE and CAREER.

      • laura

        You don’t know me so don’t talk like you know what my life is like. I’ve learned how hard life is because of all the misery my family has been through and not because my mom produces one baby after the other. Which isn’t even healthy for the mom herself. Obviously it has it’s pros and cons, you only stated the pros and here are the cons: you won’t be able to give each child equal attention. The mom doesn’t have a job and probably barely has time for herself. Housing them apparently was a problem for them too, feeding all of them can’t be cheap, medical expenses are probably out of the roof, education can’t be cheap either and I bet there are a lot fights between the siblings as well. They are lucky they are getting paid by TLC.

        • Giovanni

          More to life than money, sweetheart. Family and love means much more. My great aunt had 13 kids, and guess what? All grew up to be healthy, happy, and successful people. Guess your pathetic theory regarding large families can go in the trash.

          • Giovanni

            By the way, in the past, large families were the NORM. Just because society has changed doesn’t mean having large families is wrong or unhealthy or unnatural. Maybe YOU should pay more attention in biology.

          • laura

            This doesn’t even have anything to do with biology, this is more for sociology.
            How about you give me a date instead of just saying in the past. Because in the past, it was also ok to have slaves, to sell humans, to abuse women, and so on.

        • iWizard

          Hmm…I don’t think you should judge other’s lives. If they want to have children, they can have children.

          Measuring the pros and cons of a human life is very…immoral.

          What about happiness? Would you also like to put a price tag on that?

          • laura

            Yet you are the one judging women who choose abortion. And you are right: what about happiness? Practice what you preach.

          • iWizard

            I’m not telling people they shouldn’t abort – I’m showing the reasons why it isn’t the ONLY option.

            I’m actually criticizing abortion, but it’s alright if you don’t know what the difference is.

            Here’s a scenario:

            A 17yo has 5 relationships over the course of 10 years. She sleeps with every man. She gets impregnated by every man. She aborts every baby. There’s at least 5 lives that she has killed for, in the long run, insignificant relationships.

            So…why not just get married, have sex, have a child and not give up any of them? What’s wrong with that?

          • laura

            Did I ever say that abortion was the only option? No.
            I don’t believe in abortion as anti conception. I believe in abortion as a last resort, so to speak. And I believe that abortion is a right.
            Also, that woman can be sexually active before marriage, nothing wrong with that. It’s her body and she decides what she does with that body.
            That last statement you made is the dumbest ever. There are too many married couples out there that have children and then are unhappy they have one or they abuse it, neglect it, etc.

          • threelittlebirds

            you’re last statement…i can’t stand people like that. especially the families who pick one child to abuse and the treat the other kids perfect. it sickens me.

          • laura

            Ugh I know, I’ve heard and read so many horror stories. There was this Belgian family and they had three daughters and they would tie them on chairs where they would have to sleep, they were only allowed to wash themselves in dirty water once a month and got dog food or no food at all. And the school didn’t do anything about for years until one time one of the girls went swimming with school (which their parents didn’t allow) and the teacher saw all the bruises and cuts on her body. The most disgusting thing is that these parents don’t even have to stay in jail for that long.

          • threelittlebirds

            i know, it’s so sad. i saw on the news a few weeks ago about a young couple (21-ish) who left their 8 month old in the car for a week. they claimed they forgot about him. how the hell do you forget about your own child?!?! it’s utterly disgusting, jail time is like what, maybe 5 years. people like that should be treated like how they treated their kids, an eye for an eye.

          • laura

            How on earth can those people even live with themselves? Those people should be locked up until they die imo. They don’t deserve anything good.

        • Marina And My Diamonds

          One more con to add: The destruction it will have on the mother’s body, it can actually kill her by having so many kids.

      • laura

        http://www.womenshealthmag.com/health/pregnancy-perks#.

        http://www.nbcnews.com/id/29163803/ns/health-womens_health/t/some-women-driven-baby-addiction/#.Uxom89xPrgI

        This might be very interesting for you to check out as well, they clearly didn’t teach you this at school.

        • amy

          you realize that there are also women who are addicted to abortions, right?

          • laura

            Yes but those woman can be denied of an abortion in my country.

    • Giovanni

      1. Being judgmental doesn’t make you right.
      2. If you get raped, you do the noble thing and sacrifice 9 months of your life and give the child up for adoption. Same for your other invalid arguments.
      3. Have you ever watched the show? Have you ever talked to anyone from a large family? You certainly can take care of 16 kids, especially as the older kids are able to help more. Perhaps you don’t know what it means to help your family?
      4. Clothes.
      5. More like you’re a lost case- you’re already throwing away anything anyone else says because your mind is closed completely. I feel sorry for you that you’re so selfish and have so little regard for life. Also am sorry your family apparently didn’t take enough time to take proper care of you and your morals (or lack thereof).

      • laura

        1. I am not judgmental at all.
        2. If you get raped, you don’t want to carry the baby of the monster who stripped away all your dignity, confidence and self respect. It’s absolutely disgusting you even dare to say something like that.
        3. No I haven’t watched the show because my country doesn’t infest our minds with shit like this. But I looked it up on the internet and read many different opinions about it.
        4. No shit.
        5. I am not a lost case at all. My parents raised me very well so please shut your gob about that. I have great morals as well and will never condone a woman for having an abortion. I will never tell a woman what to do and what not to do. I will not base my opinions on what the church or the Bible told me to think: I have an opinion of my own. I have had moral classes for 12 years so I understand what is going on in the world. I know what people think about certain topics and I’ve learnt to decide for myself what is good and what is wrong. I am a good person because that is what I want, not because I don’t want to get punished by God or because I want to go to heaven. The only one who is close minded is you because you can’t look farther than what the Bible told you to believe. Thank you very much for your concern.

        • Zaina777

          People are so ignorant. Why should a woman be forced to have a baby that she doesn’t even want in the first place? Especially if she is raped. It’s that womans personal choice and no one elses.

          • laura

            Ugh I can’t even.. The only reason they have this opinion is because they aren’t educated enough about the topic and because they don’t have an opinion of their own: they just follow the Bible and church blindly. Or any religion for that matter, really.

          • Zaina777

            Like, i’m a muslim but I believe that it’s your choice and it’s your life so you can make whatever choice your want to as long as you are comfortable in your own skin and body.

          • laura

            And that is something I applaud and have immense respect for. I’m not pro religion at all but I think it amazing when people are religious but use that religion to do good in the world and to spread love and acceptance. And that is what you and many other do. But there are so many rotten apples out there..

          • Godney

            Its so weird cus god preach about aceptation and love the other person, protect the poor etc etc and i wonder how many of these “gods freaks” actually preach what god says

          • saveasoul

            Again a “baby”!! Your starting to catch on!

          • Zaina777

            Yeah, a baby that wasn’t their choice. So why should they be forced to keep it? You are ignorant.

        • iWizard

          Did you just call a woman that has a child from rape disgusting?

          I think you did.

          I think YOU are the one that’s disgusting.

          • laura

            No, you can’t read. I called Giovanni disgusting.

          • iWizard

            And I quote:

            If you get raped, you don’t want to carry the baby of the monster who stripped away all your dignity, confidence and self respect. It’s absolutely disgusting you even dare to say something like that.”

            Now, maybe you do not understand grammar but the word “that” reflects back to the first sentence that “If you get raped, you don’t want to carry the baby of the monster…”

            So you were stating that people who believe that keeping children from rape are disgusting.

            If that was your intended meaning, then yes, you are disgusting. If not, then I apologize for offending you.

          • laura

            I quote: If you get raped, you do the noble thing and sacrifice 9 months of your life and give the child up for adoption.
            My reply makes perfectly sense and is only aimed at him expecting raped women to keep the baby because it is ‘noble’. No, it is mental torture! The ‘that’ clearly reflects to his statement.
            Apologies accepted, I guess. Just be friendlier and try to understand that English isn’t my native language and that I try my best to state my opinion.

          • ikeepempressedt

            Mental illnesses are genetic. So chances are, the baby would have a really fucked way of thinking, just like it’s father.

          • amy

            Ok, that was uncalled for. Yes mental illnesses are genetic, but just because a baby was conceived out of rape does not mean it will have a mental illness. That is a super offensive thing to say. Even if you didn’t mean to make it sound like most children with rapists as fathers will “have a really fucked way of thinking” it is what you said. I hope you understand how terrible of a thing that is to say. Also, on a different note, not all rapists have a “mental illness”. There is a difference between having a mental illness and deciding to rape someone.

          • ikeepempressedt

            Are you REALLY defending rapists right now??!? You have to be fucked up in the head to even think about or pursue raping someone. NO I wouldn’t have a rapist’s baby and if another doesn’t want to either then that her choice. “That is a super offensive thing to say.” You know what’s also offensive? Telling a woman what she can and can not to with her own body. It’s called having some business and minding it. You should try it.

          • amy

            I NEVER defended rapists. I defended the children that are produced by rape. I did not say that a raped woman should not have an abortion. That is one of the few cases that I actually support abortion. You said that any child who was born after their mother was raped will have fucked up thinking. Would you not be upset if you were a product of rape and heard someone say that? Just because someone’s father is a rapist doesn’t mean they will end up being messed up, which you said their was a great chance of. I do not think that you should have said that all rapists have mental illnesses. There are rapists who don’t have mental illnesses. Think about high school and college boys who have been in the news for raping drunk girls. They don’t have medically diagnosed mental illnesses. They committed the crime of rape because they think that they are entitled to sex and don’t think that there is anything wrong with their actions. That isn’t a mental illness, that is rape culture and having corrupted morals.

          • ikeepempressedt

            No matter how long you make your ridiculous argue, your still not right and you still sound fucking stupid. If a girl is raped and she gets pregnant, if she wants an abortion, then she can do so. Point. Black. PERIOD.

          • amy

            You clearly can not read or are just choosing to not read anything I wrote. I said that women who get raped should be able to get abortions. Stop trying to make it sound like I said that women who get raped shouldn’t be able to get an abortion because that is far from the truth. I was just trying to get your to realize that you were being really insensitive towards children born out of rape. You were claiming that children whose fathers are rapists are going to turn our screwed up, which is not the case. No, it can’t be easy to have a rapist be your father, but that doesn’t mean that they will automatically have a mental illness or live a screwed up life.

          • ikeepempressedt

            and blah, blah, blah. It’s scientific facts. I understand you don’t think it’s right, but guess what? It is what it is. I, for one, would feel like total shit if I found out my father raped my mother and that’s why I’m here. That’s just not right. And you know it.

          • Godney

            But @lolumadhuh:disqus wwas right… if the rapist has mental illness the most prob is that the child will too.
            No lie or “ofensive” there

          • laura

            Being a rapist means that you do have a mental illness. They don’t just wake up one day and are like ‘yeah I’m going to rape someone today’. It’s something that is there from the beginning, it’s a mental condition just like pedophilia. If you aren’t educated about the topic then just shut up.

        • Seriously

          Here you are generalizing and judging religious people…

          Get help. Quick.

      • Zaina777

        So, by your logic everyone who chooses to keep the baby after rape won’t eventually have an attachment to the child in their stomach for 9 months even if they were giving it up for adoption right after it was born. Yeah right. I believe it is your choice to keep a baby or not. It’s your baby and nobody elses.

      • ikeepempressedt

        The “noble” thing. Please, just shut up. It’s a personal choice whether or not a woman wants to keep her baby.

        • saveasoul

          Oh good at least you called it what it is “a Baby”!

          • anon

            semantics~ you know what she means. lol this just shows you have nothing productive to add to the discussion lbr.

          • ikeepempressedt

            I did call it a Baby…

    • Abortionismurder

      I am sorry for your ignorance! Find God. I will pray for you. You have no soul.

      • laura

        Please don’t waste your time doing that, it won’t help me nor will it help you.

        • Abortionismurder

          It will give me grace. Too bad you don’t believe. There is never any harm in believing only good.

          • laura

            So you would only do this to be considered a good person and to go to heaven? Isn’t that selfish of you?
            I do believe in the good but I do not believe in spreading hate and justifying things with religion. That is wrong and disgusting.

          • Abortionismurder

            Im not judging you. Just as you are doing, I am stating my opinion. I don’t even know you.

      • Zaina777

        Abortion isn’t murder if the baby is forced inside you…from rape or anything else of a forceful nature.

      • ikeepempressedt

        I’ve found God. and I know that he would support anything I chose to do.

    • amy

      I’m against abortion except for in the case of rape, but I really think you should read what I have to say. I’m not trying to change your mind, I just want to explain their views. Also, I really think your meanness about what they are wearing and the size of their family is uncalled for.
      1. Biology class has nothing to do with the fact that people believe that a baby is a baby before it is born. That clump of cells is going to be a fully developed human someday, so it isn’t just a “clump of cells”. It has to do with whether or not you think that the beginnings of human life still constitute as human life. I myself understand that it is not yet a human when it first forms, but I think that something that is becoming a human deserves just as much respect as any human.
      2. Rape is a totally different matter than consensual sex. And if you can’t take care of a child, can’t give it the love it needs, or are still in school you shouldn’t have sex. I don’t understand why so many people think that is unreasonable. I am choosing not to have sex until I am at a place in my life where I would be able to take care of a child if I were to get pregnant. Sex is not something that people will die without. I don’t understand why people don’t think celibacy is a birth control option. Also, being “in school” does not prevent you from taking care of a child. My friend’s mom was a single mother who supported herself all throughout college and now has a great life and career. I also have a friend who is attending college right now who is a teenage mother and she is doing fine.
      3. Some religions don’t believe in birth control. Just like you think abortion is a woman’s choice, it is also a woman’s choice to not use birth control and have as many children as she wants. And they have actually done a fine job raising their kids. I’m not saying that I agree with the way that they have raised their kids or their choice to have 19 kids, they have actually done a much better job parenting their kids than many other parents with only one or two kids.
      4. They dress the way they do for religious reasons. They want to dress modestly. I don’t think you should criticize them for that.

    • Sick

      It is a woman’s choice if she wants it or not or agrees with it or not, you’re ignorant for being close minded.
      Dissing their clothes isn’t a point & in my country families have up to even 20 kids. My uncle has 13 so please, for once and for all, STOP GENERALIZING.
      Good day.

  • ehh

    I’m a Christian, but I think a woman should be in control of her body. I don’t agree with women who use abortions as birth control, but I don’t think it’s right to imply that all women are “killing their babies”. Don’t guilt women into keeping a child they may not want, or have the means to care for.

    • Saveasoul

      You are not a practicing Christian if you believe in abortion. Life begins at conception

      • Queen Amanda Bynes

        oh god.

      • Zaina777

        Um, not if your raped. Don’t be ignorant.

      • Cici

        A practicing Christian wouldn’t place judgement on another for what they decide to do. We were all put here to make our own choices, and we will all answer to God when he calls us. So worry about yourself, do what you feel is right, and let others be. The unborn will go straight to Heaven. Focus on that.

        • laura

          I’m not even religious but I think what you said is beautiful. This is what religion should be about and not spewing hate.

          • Cici

            You’re right & that’s what its purpose was & is. Jesus was nothing but love, but society has it all twisted and many “Christians” out here have given it such a bad rep because they do not know anything about the religion they so strongly defend. Everyone thinks they are God, and that is the biggest problem in this world. Nobody should be judging anyone.

          • laura

            To be completely honest here, I think that men created Jesus and the Bible to learn people to be loving and respecting. It’s kind of like with fairytales, it’s meant to teach you something and to be a good person. But this is just my opinion because I am not religious. I just really hope I didn’t offend someone with this statement.

          • threelittlebirds

            didn’t offend me. i don’t believe in anything of what the bible says.

          • laura

            Always got to be careful about these things haha
            I find religion fascinating tbh and that is also why I sneak into the classes they teach about the history of it and such at uni when I have a 4 hour break. Or psychology classes, whatever they teach at that moment haha

          • threelittlebirds

            i like the many types of religion, i just don’t want to be apart of one. i’d rather believe what i want to believe.

          • laura

            Same here, I just really enjoy learning about them but I’ll never be religious myself. I just don’t need it tbh. But, I fully understand that there are many people out there who do need it.

          • ilostafriend

            I wasn’t offended until you called it fairytales, but I’m not in the mood to rant about how inaccurate that is . (im not christian tho)

          • laura

            I didn’t call it fairytales. You clearly didn’t learn about the history of fairytales and that is why you replied with this stupid ass comment. Google is your friend.

        • Zaina777

          I agree. We will all be judged no matter what. Our choices are our choices and no one should be able to control ours lives but ourselves.

        • Abortionsucks

          Love the sinner! Hate the sin!

    • Giovanni

      Read your Bible. God’s Word is right, not your (or society’s) opinions.

      • anon

        lol ok

  • K

    Pro choice isn’t pro abortion!!!!

    • Saveasoul

      That’s just dumb. What us it then?

      • laura

        It’s supporting the rights of women.

        • Saveasoul

          Women’s rights? Were you born in the 1920’s? My mom makes more money than 95% of men. I know plenty of women who make more than men. What rights do we have as women to take a life?

          • Bic

            And now we know that money doesn’t buy knowledge, thank you ! :D

          • laura

            Again, don’t talk about topics you are uneducated about. There is still plenty of inequality. I strongly suggest you look everything up and become a bit more educated because right now you are a disgrace to women.

    • Queen Amanda Bynes

      thank you. women should be allowed to do whatever they want with their bodies.

      • Saveasoul

        That’s just gross. Do you not have any sort of morals or dignity? Grow up and watch a real video on abortion and gestation of a baby in the womb. Have your first child then tell me abortion is not killing a life.

        • Queen Amanda Bynes

          Why do you care what someone else does with HER body.

          A woman should be able to choose what is best for her,we shouldn’t have a say in it because we don’t know the circumstances.

  • Rah

    Women deserve control of their own bodies, and unfortunately, God will not pay for your child. He will not feed it, clothe it, or give it shelter. He will not take care of it while you work overtime. He will not take care of it while you’re in school. So let women choose what happens to their bodies.

    • Giovanni

      Except once there’s a child conceived it is about more than the woman’s body. It’s about another life. Which you murder when you choose to abort. “It’s the woman’s choice” is selfish and holds no water.

      • Rah

        We’re never going to agree. You care so much about this life when it’s in the woman’s body, but once it’s outside, and an actual life no one is going to support it. The government does not give a fuck. God is not going to help you. You are on your own with a child you did not want or plan for. Having an unwanted child is irresponsible. Sure, you could put it up for adoption, but what if it goes to an abusive home, or doesn’t get adopted. Abortion is not murder. Thank god, THANK GOD, that many women have this option.

        • Zaina777

          People will also judge you who don’t know the whole story. If you can’t handle that then you can be allowed to have an abortion.

          • Rah

            Every woman should have access to an abortion clinic, no matter her circumstances.

          • Zaina777

            I agree. The people who are saying that they should keep them don’t know each persons story. Everybody in this world has and story and everybody is different in one way or another.

        • Saveasoul

          Please do not use God in vain. You should take him out of your vocabulary and put him in your heart. I love God! I will pray for you.

      • Godney

        In my country “murder” is in law , taking someone else life by stoping the heart beat… if that thing you call baby then its not murder..

  • iWizard

    Don’t have sex if you’re not prepared for the consequences. That’s what it’s there for. Rape is a totally different story, but if you’re 16, immature and not ready to have a child, DON’T HAVE SEX. It’s really that simple.

    • Lily

      The reality of today’s circumstances is, yes, teens are going to be sexually active. Hell, teens have been sexually active for decades! What we need instead is an all-encompassing sex education program that can effectively TEACH youth that NO sex is not bad, IF you are smart and safe about it. It’s not just about pregnancy, but STD prevention and actually understanding the implications of it. If we keep penalizing teens that are giving into human impulse… Fuck, we’ll never get anywhere. Get rid of this stigma, it’s only hurting youth and increases the likelihood of pregnancy/abortion. On top of that, we have to be understanding to those who do ultimately choose to terminate pregnancy, regardless of personal attitudes.

      • iWizard

        It shouldn’t be sugar-coated either. I think sex should be directly linked to pregnancy so that kids can finally get it in their head that it’s a serious thing. You’re right – education is key. And they should be educated that with every action there’s a reaction and that they should be prepared for it.

        Don’t jump off a cliff if you’re not prepared to hit your head off a rock and drown. That’s all I’m saying.

        Abortion isn’t the only option. What’s the pain of finding a pair of people who want to adopt and can’t conceive? You’ll lose your pride, be publicly humiliated but you’ll be giving life and making a couple happy.

        • Rah

          You are sugar-coating it. Have you not heard of foster homes? The child might not get adopted, it could be adopted by abusive people, or pedophiles. It is irresponsible to bring an unwanted child into this world. In the USA, 250000 kids enter the foster care system every year. Who is taking care of them? You care so much about the fetus in the womb, but once it’s out and an actual, breathing, thoughtful human being, you don’t care at all.

          • iWizard

            And maybe that child will be adopted by parents that will love and cherish it.

            So instead of fixing the system for foster homes, we should kill off the children and then our problem is solved. Yes, that sounds like a wonderful idea.

          • Rah

            Do you know who is not improving the foster situation? The Government. Also God. Because once it’s an actual person, you no longer care about it’s life. This is something that we’re never going to agree on, but I’m very appreciative that I live in a country where abortion is legal and accessible to women of all walks of life. Women have rights to their body, they have choice of what happens to it and goes on inside it. And that choice is what I am thankful for.

      • amy

        The point is, if teens are going to have sex they need to deal with the consequences. They shouldn’t go get an abortion and then just keep having sex (which happens). Too many people see abortion as a contraceptive (which I feel like many people on the pro-choice ignore). Too many teenagers have sex without thinking that pregnancy will ever happen. I don’t think we should tell teens that they can’t have sex. I think we need to tell them that pregnancy is very real and that they can’t rely on abortion to avoid dealing with the consequences of their actions.

  • Cici

    Although I mostly agree with their views, I will not judge another woman on choosing abortion. Just not my place. It is something I could never bring myself to do. I look at my babies, and I just couldn’t imagine life without them. They are definitely life changing, and it takes work, but it is your baby. I think it all comes down to being properly educated on sex. If you decide to have sex, you are deciding to accept the responsibility of possibly becoming pregnant. The only preventative action that you can take is refraining from intercourse. Condoms, birth control, pulling out, etc. None of it is 100% & I am speaking from experience. Just getting personal here, my son came from a condom, and my daughter came from pulling out. Luckily, me & my husband were strong enough to take on this life changing experience. Sex is not just sex, it is a huge responsibility. That’s why I believe the whole “waiting till marriage” thing is out there to protect yourself from something you are not ready for.

    • iWizard

      I agree with you 100%; it’s a responsibility that shouldn’t be taken lightly.

    • Queen Amanda Bynes

      <3

  • Duckyhoward15

    please shut up spoiled brats

    • Keen

      So do you

      • Duckyhoward15

        Oh trust me I amn’t spoiled and I don’t open my mouth and diss someone’s decision for their OWN life , so if someone is a brat it either you or them xx

  • Lily

    P.S. I’m digging that OceanUp is including more debatable topics. It makes things a lot more interesting. :)

  • Truth

    Its not just the womens body so she cant just kill another human being, news flash its not only your body its someone else’s body in your body. A human. Logic fact its not only your choice, your making that choice for another human.

  • Keen

    A baby appears by the time it’s conceived within the womb. It has a heart at four weeks. It’s a human being not meant to be killed. It deserves a chance for a life for itself. Abortion is terminating a child’s life which is murder. Murder is ABSOLUTELY WRONG & HORRIFYING. Babies are never a parasite, otherwise YOU are also a PARASITE. A WOMAN being RAPED and has conceived a child has a better choice of giving the child a chance by giving it up for adoption for childless couples who have been trying for years yet can’t come up with their own. So a child lost to a biological is gained by another with LOVE. All children are gifts, are special, have talents. There are some celebrities who were almost aborted. If it weren’t for their parents they wouldn’t have been in our world today.

    • Lily

      An organism that can not yet sustain life on it’s own should NOT be considered in the same realm as actual living, breathing children. Where is all the concern with the born children living in poverty, abuse, neglect, or ostracism due to their sexuality/mental health/race etc.? Where are you then? No, you’re more concerned with FORCING A WOMAN TO CARRY SOMETHING FOR NINE MONTHS, SOMETHING THAT IS PHYSICALLY AFFECTING AND DRAINING HER BECAUSE YOU CARE MORE ABOUT A POTENTIAL BABY RATHER THAN ALREADY LIVING WOMEN AND CHILDREN. How utterly selfish!

      • Saveasoul

        You are dumb. If you take a three year old child and let him fend for himself he will die.

        • Lily

          Lol, you know very well that I meant. For instance, a healthy, full-term, born child doesn’t need outside assistance to actually have their VITAL ORGANS FUNCTION. It’s absolutely different if say, a pre-mature child is getting willing assistance from willing parents that actually want it. Also, way to completely disregard the rest of the comment for your own convenience.

          • saveasoul

            Let me understand, So you believe it is ok to kill a baby in the womb up to 9 months? Or how about if the baby survived the abortion? Kill it after it is out of the mothers body?

          • amy

            I don’t understand why whether or not a baby is wanted makes it any less valuable than any other baby.

      • Giovanni

        No, what’s selfish is not giving 9 months of your life (after you made the decision to spread your legs) in order to give the child you conceived their opportunity to live. There are ALWAYS solutions out there, but abortion should NOT be one of them.

  • Keen

    ALL INDIVIDUALS ARE RESPONSIBLE for what they do even when it comes to HAVING SEX AT A YOUNG AGE. Realizing that a young woman is pregnant after having sex is a shocker, but not a mature adult, nor a hero of killing an unwanted baby.

    • LOL

      I wish you would seriously STFU. Who are you to judge a women and what she does with *HER* body? You are no one. Only god can judge, and believe me..he won’t be half as judgmental as you. Its easy for you to say “Abortion is murder. Don’t kill the baby” But what if that’s a women’s only option? It should be up to the women’s choice..NO ONE ELSE’S. After all it is HER responsibility & HER life. Get that through your tiny little mind.

      • Saveasoul

        Really….no other choice? Who is the selfish one now?

        • LOL

          Im not saying theres no other choice. If you can read correctly, I am saying that it should be a women’s choice to do with what she pleases with her body!!!!! End. Of. Story.

          • abby

            sure go out and exploit yourself. Have no morals or self respect. Become a stripper, a prostitute, or have sex with guys that are using you. Why not? Get an abortion while your at it. Grow up.

        • laura

          If the health of the mother is in danger, perhaps?

      • Abby

        Why do you think she’s judging?
        Aren’t you the one judging this article?
        you did not have to pass judgement of these girls but you choose to comment on this article.

  • Lily

    I will never understand people who essentially see women as void fetus-carriers, and in the end, couldn’t give two shits after the child is actually born. I’ll never understand this backwards-ass thinking.

  • Hollyhysteria

    Would you guys stop posting about them? This isn’t the place for this.

    • Queen Amanda Bynes

      IKR , whenever these kinds of post come a TON of anons suddenly appear trying to ‘educate’ everyone.

  • Melissa

    Funny how they can say God will take care of us. Really? He will? He certainly took care of that girl who was raped and got pregnant. I didn’t know God would pay for schooling, my bills, food and gas! Wow!

    It’s easy to say things like this when you’re exploited by your parents for money.

    • LOL

      Wow. I am so sad about how little faith you have. Its obvious that God can’t actually pay for our schooling, bills, food, etc. But if you pray to him, and ask him for guidance on your troubles please believe he will answer. It may take weeks or even months but he knows what he is doing. He knows just exactly what you need and when to give it too you. God doesn’t put you through anything that you cannot handle. He only gives the toughest battles to his strongest soldiers, all you need to have is faith.

      • Debz

        I would have to say he does pay for our food, schooling and all that stuff. My family is struggling right and we keep getting money in the oddest places/circumstances!
        Since we are don’t’ good right now, He has stepped in.
        When we get back on our feet, the miracles come less, but they still come :)

        • LOL

          I know. I’m saying he doesn’t pay for it in a literal sense…like God doesn’t just pop out of the sky & hand you money. I believe what your family is experiencing right now is God’s blessings! He sees your circumstances and hears your prays, just as I said above he is answering them! Bless you & I hope your struggles lessen soon. xx

      • Melissa

        Incorrect. I don’t have “little faith” I have absolutely no faith. I’m not affiliated with any religion.

      • Melissa

        Are you kidding me? I’m not an idiot. I didn’t say he would pay for expenses physically. When a person struggles to afford those things on their own, how is a girl with a child supposed to survive? You trying to convince someone not to get an abortion is just as bad as someone trying to get a girl to get an abortion. In both cases, you’re being told what to do with YOUR own body. God doesn’t own my body and neither do you.

        • Debz

          1. HE created YOUR body.
          2. Adoption is also a choice.
          3. I believe that you have some type of faith. The type that knows that God may actually be real, or else you wouldn’t be so threatened by him. :/

          • Melissa

            I don’t believe in god at all. I can’t believe you’re saying someone else owns my body other than me. My parents created my body when they had sex. Does that mean my parents own me? So my mother was “used” as an incubator? So she half owns my body? So is its okay if she ever chose to sell my body for money? So I guess slave trade was okay too, right? I was raised Catholic. When I was 18 I made the choice to not follow that religion, or any religion, because none of it made sense to me. I only “believed” because my parents told me to. That is not being a real person in any religious community.

          • Lily

            Bravo, Melissa. Unfortunately these plebs will never willingly take logic into account.

          • abby

            its not logical to kill a baby

          • Debz

            Well it’s a good thing God is not a religion.
            Without God, conceiving would not be possible.

            I have never understood why God angers people so much. Whats wrong with knowing someones got your back AT ALL TIMES?

          • a

            Having to deal with close-minded ignorant people like you. Your kind of people are the reason that I left the church in the first place. So much judgment but no place to judge.

          • Debz

            Woah woah woah. There is no judgment here. I use to think just like you guys. But then I actually sought God out. He’s actually REALLY AWESOME. I’m happy. Happier then I’ve ever been. I just want to extend my knowledge of God and happiness to others. I want them to be happy as well.

            I agree that the church can be condemning and judgmental. But not ALL people who believe in God are like that.

          • Melissa

            Fuck judgement. That person LITERALLY just said that some dude in the sky owned my body. I give up after that.

          • Debz

            If you had the chance to see that God was actually real, would you take it?

          • Melissa

            Depends if I have better plans.

          • Debz

            There are no better plans then to follow God. Literally EVERYTHING that I wanted was changed when I followed God. And like I said, I have NEVER been happier.

            I’ll pray that God makes himself more real in your life. I know that sounds weird, but if you really want it, it can happen.

          • Melissa

            Don’t waste your prayers on me. Pray for something important, for someone who NEEDS it, like hungry children and uneducated people. I have a good life on MY own terms and beliefs. Thank you and goodbye.

          • Lily

            Whats the point of this hypothetical question, if it’s literally an IMPOSSIBLE scenario? She’s already made it very clear that she is not religious, that should be enough.

          • Debz

            Again, God is not a religion. He’s real. And He came for the sinners, and the broken hearted. Not for the “good” people. He changes the sinners and the broken hearted into Good people.

            He won’t hurt you. Honest. He’ll make a better life for you.

          • abby

            who is judging? You are against people who do not believe the way you do. We are just stating our opinion in what we believe.
            I love the sinner but hate the sin.

          • Melissa

            I literally have no words for this. I just can’t think of anything to say to make anything after THAT, sound logical.

          • threelittlebirds

            i’m pretty sure my parents created me. i didn’t just poof out of nowhere.

          • laura

            I am pretty sure women would be ecstatic if children would just poof out of nowhere instead of having to give birth. Looks excruciating to me haha

          • threelittlebirds

            haha, oh i’ve heard stories. kinda makes me to never want kids, but i know in the end it’s all worth it.

          • laura

            I’ve seen it during biology, I am so going to adopt when I am older.. And I’m someone who can bear a lot of pain, trust me.

          • threelittlebirds

            oh me too, but not when they say giving birth is the second most painful thing a body can go through.

        • LOL

          Your misreading what I said. I said that I didn’t mean it in a literal sense to “Debz” not you…. Did you even read my first reply to you at all? I didn’t even say ANYTHING about abortion! Maybe you should talk a step back & breathe because clearly you need it. Oh & btw..I’m pro choice. Bye.

          • Melissa

            I thought I did reply to Debz, I didn’t even read your name. My bad.

  • Saveasoul

    Abortion is killing! Pro Choice is pro killing!

  • HaveSomeFaith

    Lily, you’re one sad, angry child.. I think this probably makes you feel guilty so you try so hard to convince others that a human isn’t a human when they are conceived..its clear that you are really trying to convince yourself… Does this,hit close to home for you?

    Melissa, its easy to give up and murder your child before he or she even has a chance and its also easy to blame god for all your problems and say he isnt going to be there for me when in reality he is,always going to be there for you, you just have to want him to be there and not just ignore him and think everything is going to be horrible because I cant afford things, but maybeif you gave it some faith things will turn up and no its not going to happen at a blink of an eye, it takes faith and willingness and patients.

    • Lily

      Lmao, no definitely not. I’m fortunate to live an extremely privileged life in a community where everything is relatively open and understanding and the stigma against these things possess far less social value. My parents raised me to be open-minded, but still respectful of myself. Not that it’s any of your business, but I am a virgin, and that is my choice, but I am not going to discredit another human being for not living the way I do. I find is disgusting that some people live in such a hostile environment that other people insist in dictating their actions. Your comment is truly telling to your judgmental character, tsk, tsk!

      I’m sure many of these girls who have expressed being pro-choice have never had an abortion, nor would consider it. But you see, we feel this little thing called empathy. Something that you clearly are incapable of.

    • laura

      When a baby is conceived, they are merely cells. A human being is something that can live on its own not something that is a parasite in a woman’s body. Learn your biology. Even the Bible states this: Genesis 2:7 says “Then the LORD God formed a man from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living being.”

      • Giovanni

        Don’t use the Bible when you’re WRONG about what it says. DUST is not living. YOU are made up of cells too, but you’re alive. A conceived child may not be able to live outside the mother yet but that does not mean it is not living. By the time a woman knows she is pregnant, those “cells” already have a beating heart!

        • laura

          There is a big difference between life and human life. And I am not using the Bible wrong, you just can’t handle the fact that the Bible contradicts itself and that I’ve proven you wrong with this statement.

          • amy

            I’m not religious, but you are definitely misinterpreting the bible.

      • amy

        I think it is funny that when a fetus is unwanted it is a “parasite”, but when it is wanted it is a baby from the moment a woman finds out she is pregnant. You can’t have it both ways. You have to decide how you want to view that clump of cells. It can’t be nothing in some cases and a treasured life in others.

        • laura

          A fetus is a parasite of the mother’s body whether it is wanted or unwanted. Those are the biological terms for it. And indeed, it IS a clump of cells.

          • amy

            I know that by definition a fetus is a clump of cells and a parasite. But the use of those words in pro-choice arguments is all about rhetoric, not definitions. Those terms are only ever used when talking about fetuses that mothers don’t want, not fetuses that mothers do want. I don’t think it is right to call a fetus a clump of cells when it is unwanted and yet call it a baby when it is wanted. If you were pregnant with a fetus that you wanted, I highly doubt that you would refer to your fetus as a parasite or a clump of cells.

          • laura

            Trust me, I would.

    • melissa

      Don’t recall blaming anyone for my problems.

  • Debz

    To the whole thing about rape:

    I know a lot of people who have been raped and end up pregnant. A lot of those woman didn’t kill the child. They gave birth and gave it up for adoption.
    I know it doesn’t seem fair that they got pregnant. God’s got every thing under control though. He uses EVERY BAD situation for good. You may not see the outcome for YEARS, but its their.
    I know some of you are thinking “If God actually cared and loved us, then he wouldn’t have allowed it to happen.” HE DOES CARE. Human beings have FREE WILL. He knows whats going to happen, before it happens.
    I was abused my whole life, and I should be furious and hate God, but guess what, I don’t. He spared me and was there in the situations, even If I didn’t notice right then. There were SO many times where I should’ve been dead, but guess what, I’m here right now. Looking back, I see how faithful God was too me. Bad situations usually don’t stay bad forever.

    Psalms 30:5 “Weeping may last for a night, but joy comes in the morning.” AND THAT IS SOOOOOOOOOOOO TRUE. My life is SO much BETTER now. The Lord is faithful to provide and keep me safe. And Iv’e been able to use my horrible situations to help other girls in need.

    God is good, and I can’t wait till he returns :)

    • LOL

      Beautifully written! I agree with you 100%…but I do still believe it should be the women’s choice.. wither she chooses adoption or abortion is completely up to her.

      • Debz

        That is true. It goes along with free will.

        I just know for me, that all my decisions are God inspired, and I don’t think he would say yes to abortion.

        But again, we have free will.

        • LOL

          I think God understands everyone and what they’re going through. I think all you need to do is pray to him and ask him for guidance. I think if a women does wind up choosing abortion he will understand exactly why, without judgment. Of course he may be upset, but all you need to do is ask him for his forgiveness and its yours. That’s the beauty of the Lord, he is forgiving and loving throughout all of your flaws and sins.

          • Debz

            It is true that he is full of grace and forgives sin, but its clear in the bible that he is not a fan of abortion.
            He will forgive us, but I think he expects us to make the right choice as well.

            Once you become a believer and know better, you are to strive to be better and be more like God. We will all still slip up though, but God sees that we are trying.

          • Lily

            Your faith is beautiful, and it’s great that it dictates how you live your life. However, faith should not interfere with matters, such as this, where there are a diversity of women involved, who practice various religions and even no religion at all. It’s just unfair. If this is how you choose to live YOUR life, then likewise, people should not interfere with it. Make sense?

          • Debz

            Faith is not a religion. God is not my religion.
            He is my life. His way is always best. If more people understood that, then the world would be a much happier place.

    • Debz

      I know some of you will be annoyed and angered by this, but instead of letting your feelings get in the way, actually seek God out, he won’t let you down. It took me 3 weeks of seeking God out before I actually heard his voice. Sometimes it comes quickly, and sometimes it takes a long time.

  • Saves soul

    Your baby’s appearance, sex, and even some of his or her personality and intelligence are determined at fertilization.

  • kiii
  • Queen Amanda Bynes

    how the hell can they think its ok to tell another woman/girl what to do with their body. They can do whatever they want ,but tbh they have no right to say what another person should do when pregnant.

  • Giovanni

    Sad to see so many of you pissed off at these women because they are RIGHT. All I see here are selfish arguments denying scientific fact. Those calling conceived children “parasites” are simply too hate-filled and selfish to understand the truth. I hope your eyes are opened before it’s too late.

  • threelittlebirds

    i don’t feel like getting in a debate with anyone, so don’t even reply to me. i just want to say my two sense. i believe every woman should have their choice of what they want to do with their body, personally i could never get an abortion, but i’m not gonna condone on women who do. it’s their choice, let them be.

  • anon

    Can people stop being nosy ass bitches and just stop butting into other women’s business? It’s her life, her choice. She has to live with her decision (an incredibly difficult decision, regardless of what she chooses) and the fact that there are people out there saying that having an abortion makes you a horrible person, keeping the child is stupid decision…it doesn’t make it any easier. What it comes down to is that SHE will be carrying a life, and dealing with all the societal judgement and mental and physical stress. Not you.

    • WatchOut

      AMEN!!

  • M

    I see we’re talking about biology here so I thought I’d join in:

    I have a degree in biology so that is actual facts that are tought in a Europeans universities:
    1) It’s in NO WAY a murder, there is a period of time to do it because before 4 weeks IT’S NOT a baby ! It’s nothing more than a gathering of cells. So stop with that.

    2) Enough with the “they could be adopted” speech, so much kids are dammaged for life because they end up in shleters knowing that no one wanted to raise them and again even if a lot of couples can’t have childrens and want to adopte there’s still too many kids out there that don’t have a home.

    Now, that is just IMO but you can’t believe that a house with 16 kids is healthy.
    Yes parents are help by the older ones but that is not the job of a sibling to embody the “mom and dad’s” role. To grow up they need a balance that, that kind of family can’t provide a 100%.
    (Excuse my English, french is my mother tongue)

    • threelittlebirds

      you’re english is pretty spot on.

      • M

        Thanks, I try my best :)

  • Melissa

    I’d say that debate was enlightening, but I’d be lying. It was this close *pinches thumb and pointer finger together* to being a waste of my time, but I was thoroughly entertained, thank you. This could make really good Tumblr material, but I’m too lazy to screenshot it. Don’t know why I bother typing this, I just feel like I need to say bye.

    Oh and I now believe in god less than I did before, if that’s even possible. Don’t bother replying to this. I won’t see it. Tootles.

  • saveasoul

    Life begins at conception.
    Baby has a heart beat at 6 weeks.By week 6, your baby’s brain and nervous system are developing.
    By week 7 baby’s digestive tract and lungs continue to form.
    By week 9 Your baby may make some first movements this week as muscles develop.
    By week 10, all of your baby’s vital organs have been formed and are starting to work together.

    So when is it right to suck a baby out of your body?

    • anon

      the organs might be formed but theyre not yet fully funtioning

      & sure you can consider life to “start” at conception…. just like you can consider a separate sperm and egg living, or any living organism for that matter. living does not necessarily mean living human being does it?

      • saveasoul

        Its still a life!!

        • anon

          i didnt say it wasnt life? just like an ant is a life or a koala or bacteria. all life, but not equal. didnt you read my answer?

      • saveasoul

        So when a person is old and not fully functioning, is it ok to kill?

        • anon

          when theyre truly not functioning they die on their own lol. and again, youre equating actual human like to a life that is not yet living human. there are differences.

      • amy

        I hate the argument that that lack of fully functioning organs makes it not human. It has human DNA. Also, there are people who have organs that don’t fully function. Does that make them less human?

    • M

      You didn’t read what I said ? You have a limited time, within 4 weeks of pregnancy to do it because it’s still nothing, not a baby, NOTHING ! So stop making women feel bad for what the HAVE to do ! No one will “suck a baby out”, so get your facts right and read other books than the bibble.

  • abby

    Girls its OK to be Pro Life!

    • anon

      just like its okay to make choices when it comes to your body too. :)

      • abby

        Why don’t Pro Choice people call it what it is Pro Abortion? Why sugar coat it? Just say it the way it is
        I am re phrasing your comment:
        “just like its okay to suck a living being or a baby out of your vagina when it comes to your body”
        somethings not right!

        • anon

          it would be pro abortion if people were arguing to kill off all fetuses in the womb, but thats not what anyone is arguing. rather, we are arguing that its a woman’s choice whether or not she wants to terminate a pregnancy. :)

  • Marina And My Diamonds

    Well I had my rant ready so basically everything @disqus_ftfP4VJ32z:disqus wrote. Bye.

  • Dara

    I really don’t think they should be calling it “ending the life of a baby” That just guilts the women into not aborting. Hell, if I accidentally got pregnant and was going to abort, and then someone told me I was taking an innocent life, I’d feel pretty damn bad about it. I’d probably keep it.
    And also everyone realizes “babies aren’t just blobs of tissues” No person should look at it that way along with the part about ending the baby’s life. What if they can’t take care of the baby? What if it was the product of rape? Although I don’t fully support abortion, sometimes it is necessary in certain situations

  • Zaina777

    TLC makes some really strange shows with even stranger people in the shows.

    • laura

      Honey Boo Boo being the prime example haha

      • Zaina777

        Another prime example is the “Virgin Diaries” look at the trailer and you’ll fall in love with that show…LMFAO it’s disgusting as fuck.

        • laura

          omg I’ve heard about it and I was like ‘how do people even come up with that shit?’ But then again, in the Netherlands they now have this dating show called Adam zoekt Eva (Adam seeks Eve?) and you have a man and a woman naked on an island. I don’t really know the details but it’s pretty fucked up.

          • Zaina777

            That’s hilarious. Imagine if the Bachelor was like that.

          • laura

            The dutch people love the show haha omg imagine that :o that’d be quality tv! Can you imagine the controversy it’ll spark, it’ll be hilarious!

          • Zaina777

            America’s version is pretty hilarious too though. Like, don’t even date around just go on the bachelor.

          • laura

            I’ve never even watched the Bachelor so all I know about it is what I’ve read on the internet :p some television shows are just ridiculous omfg

          • Zaina777

            Go on youtube and look up Baby Bachelor it’s a parody but it’s much better than the orginal series.

          • laura

            I watched it! The kid is the most adorable thing I’ve ever seen. Those curls were to die for, I just wanted to cuddle him :p

          • Zaina777

            He is such a cute kid.

          • laura

            Can you imagine how cute he is going to be when he is older? That boy is going to break a lot of hearts.

          • Zaina777

            Yeah, he will be one gorgeous man when he is older.