‘Bieber Leeching Off Black Ppl Music’

justin-bieber-shirtless-black-pimp (10)Lord Jamar, Brand Nubian rapper, who previously referred to Miley Cyrus as a “white Rihanna” saying she copies black music, the rapper said the same when asked about Justin Bieber. He told Vlad TV , “I ain’t even as mad at him as a lot people are. He’s a little fuckin kid…Do you know how much of a fuckin asshole you’d be at 18, 19 with however many millions of dollars and bitches on ya dick and all that type of shit? Are you kidding me…What I’m saying is the little mothafucka is young. Look who he got around him. He got a bunch of fuckin yes-men and people who’s trying to leech off of shit. But then that in turn is like karma because he’s a leech. He’s leeching off black music. Like a lot of other white artists are doing. But listen to his whole sound. Listen to who he’s trying to appeal to and influence. He got that white fan base, but he’s making essentially black music.

“To get into black music you need that cosign somewhere, somehow. So yeah, but he came in as the cute, little, white kid from YouTube. From Canada singing his heart out and you know. They like that. White people like that. So, he surrounds himself with black people to try to—Association brings on assimilation,” More from Lord Jamar’s interview and his thoughts on Justin Bieber’s Career under! Do YOU agree with Lord Jamar’s sentiments on Justin Bieber & Miley Christ?

“But he’s being influenced by Hip Hop culture and R&B culture. How it is nowadays, which has been influenced by Hip Hop…Just like sports players want to be rappers and shit like that. Like they’re not happy with just being famous and having that money. They want to have that extra little fuckin whatever it is that rap niggas have. They want that. And so he wants that too.”

The Brand Nubian lyricist later suggested that someone like Lil Twist, an artist who is a good friend of Bieber’s, may eventually take the fall for the pop stars actions. “So, he surrounds himself with black people to try to—Association brings on assimilation,” he said. “But as soon as the shit hits the fan and now they’re looking at him bad. He’s not necessarily gonna blame it maybe on Lil Twist, but I bet you somebody who’s like ‘It was that Lil Twist wasn’t it? He’s the fuckin one that fuckin pulls you into this shit?’ And now he’s like ‘Yeah, it was Lil Twist. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was the one.’”

Other artists Lord Jamar has criticized include Seattle, Washington emcee Macklemore and Memphis, Tennessee-born singer Justin Timberlake. In September of last year, he criticized Macklemore for pushing an agenda in a genre he feels the rapper doesn’t belong to.

“I can’t go to somebody else’s house and even though they let me wear their clothes and eat their food, that’s not my house,” he said while speaking to Vlad TV in September. “That’s their house. And I can’t get so comfortable in their house that I feel like I can now start talking house politics…To me when people like Macklemore come out with songs like that, I know he loves Hip Hop and all that, but he’s trying to push an agenda that him as a white man feels is acceptable.”

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  • Not Sorry

    White “artists” have been doing this since Elvis, and maybe before him. Its a fact that something is only “cool” when a white person does it. Twerking has been around for YEARS before the media decided to take it and put Miley as its poster girl. Don’t get mad at the truth.

    • Brianna

      White people take influences from the black community and popularize it within the white community. It’s not that it’s “cool” when a white person does it, it’s just that it appeals to white people more when a white person does it.

    • Queen Amanda Bynes

      well twerking wasnt popular in the media because no FAMOUS woman did it or sung about it before in music period.

      It was in rap videos and random girls on youtube.Had some one like Rihanna or Beyonce done it they’re name would be attached to it.

      • Godney

        Rihanna has been doing (some kind of) twerk on her concert for a loooong time now.

        • Queen Amanda Bynes

          I love rihanna but I don’t thing she made it ‘her’ thing.

          the thing with miley is that she talked about twerking 24/7 and no one ever did that before(mostly because it was kind of rachet to do)

          she didnt just twerk and become known for it over night,she literally talked about it to anyone who would listen.and then she made a twerk team lol.

          • Godney

            What miley did with twerking was very lame to me, but she called it twerk when her ass didnt even move at all.
            She wanted the “twerk” attention and the media didnt wanted to correct her and say “that is not twerking” because no white woman was doing the twerk

          • Queen Amanda Bynes

            lmfao, when she first started i was like wtf ,because it was so differnt than what i was excepting after her back yard sessions which were amazing.I love her though,i honestly think its a phase,it took a while for me to come around though haha

    • anon

      White people can’t be influenced by black artist? And twerking was only popularized because everyone was making a big deal out of Miley doing it because she was a Disney star coming out of her “good girl” phase.

  • Rah

    Calling it “black music” is such bullshit. I love rap and hip-hop, it’s my favourite genre, and I’m white as fuck. I can listen to what I like, and so can everyone else. If he’s making the kind of music he wants to listen to, it’ll just make him a better artist, not a fake one.

    • Rah

      Also, Miley Cyrus is no Rihanna.

    • J

      I don’t think he’s saying that only black people can listen to it, he’s saying that it’s music that is made/popularized by the black community.

      • Rah

        That’s true. I just don’t get his point. I don’t see a problem with Justin Bieber using Hip-hop influence in his music or working with black producers and artists. Why is this a problem?

        • http://radiants0ul.tumblr.com/ getlikemiley

          Exactly. If that’s the kind of music that he enjoys making and is good at making then why is it a problem? Music shouldn’t be categorized by color.

    • Godney

      But “black music” is called like that because it was born in the black comunity, like salsa and merengue were born in the latin comunity. Its part of their culture…

      • Queen Amanda Bynes

        agreed

      • Rah

        From what he’s saying (or at least how I’m interpreting it), is that white people shouldn’t make “black music”, and I think that’s stupid. Keeping cultures so separate is how racism continues to exist.

        • Godney

          But if you mix all cultures then there would be no cultures… i dont want white people on my culture tbh (im latina)

          • Rah

            You don’t have to mix them, just let other people participate. The opposite of you saying you don’t want white people in your culture, is white people saying they don’t want you in their culture. That’s how racism continues in my opinion, the separatism.

          • Godney

            HAAAA yeah… cus white people want to be part of the latin culture! HAAAA… its not racism!, i want my culture to be alive and to keep alive, and allowing people from outside to come in and pretend they know it or that they are part of it will kill it.
            When white people say “lets just bring all cultures together” its pretty much saying “lets all be the same, and by same we mean white”… dont come at me with bullshit you dont know

          • Rah

            I disagree with you. I don’t see mixing culture as a negative thing. I don’t think that I should stay in my culture and you should stay in yours. I see your point, white people have a history of destroying culture, but I like to think that’s changed. I do think separatism is the source of racism, because it keeps everyone not apart of your culture as outsiders.

            Obviously you don’t agree with me, and that’s fine. We definitely have different perspectives. And I can’t actually understand yours any more than you can understand mine.

          • Rah

            *rich white men, not white people

          • Godney

            White people do have that history, and from what i see… that hasnt changed.
            I dont think white people know what it means to have a love for a culture.

            So i guess we agree to disagree

    • Queen Amanda Bynes

      I agree ,I like rap and hip hop as does everyone at my school and the majority of us are white. The funny thing is justin’s songs to me sound nothing like R&B, although you can hear some influences of justin timberlake/ usher but its mostly pop.

      His style is another story…

      • Marina And My Diamonds

        “His style is another story…”
        Completely.

  • Marina And My Diamonds

    This Jamar dude is kind of annoying but he’s right. Bieber isn’t the first white artist that has taken music from black artist (without credit) for years. There is a such thing as cultural music but I don’t believe in race genre music.

    • Godney

      Yesss!, there is a difference between “Cultural music” and “race music”, everybody can enjoy music, but you have to respect as where it was born.

  • anon

    I agree with him. I don’t think there’s nothing wrong tho, if everyone wins

  • WatchOut

    some people should not be allowed to open their mouth.
    Pharrell said Miley is a product of the Hip-Hop area and this is why she is influenced by hip hop.
    A lot of us grow up listening to Hip Hop and R&B. I know it started with back people but there are black people who sing country. Are they not allowed to do it because it’s not there culture?

    The answere is NO, because everyone should be allowed to do whatever they want to do.
    Music is a form of expression and no one should be allowed to tell you how to express yourself.

    • Godney

      I never got why he said that if she said many times she was all about pop music and country music. (but also said she wasnt pop at all and was more about rock music)

  • laura

    I guess he is right but he is also a bit ignorant. Hip Hop, R&B and Rap are actually African American, not just black since that is everyone with a lineage going back to Africa. Just thought I’d mention that..
    That being said, you can’t own music. Sure, you were the first ones to come up with this but like I’ve said many times before, music is something that brings people together instead of dividing races. It is one of those things people get hope and happiness from. You know when you are fucking sad, you just listen to some good music and all of a sudden things get a bit better and you start realizing the sun is shining, that your family is a pretty awesome family, that that asshole of an ex-boyfriend really isn’t worth you, etc. It’s sad people don’t seem to realize that.

    • Godney

      I am part of music has no race, but you have to respect the culture where it was born.
      I think the issue here is that the same thing with eminem, (alot of) white people say hip hop and rap is bad for the community and that disgrades woman etc etc, but when a white person does it… its ok.
      Like with Elvis, R&B and Rock n Roll (+ Soul and many more) werent played on the radio and werent allowed to play at places because it was “black people music” but then this white person comes and decides to play it as their own and then people love it!, EX: Elvis is the king but most of if not all of his songs were stolen from white people.

      • laura

        Oh definitely, I wasn’t saying that. I’m still not ok with rappers calling women hoes and bitches, whether that man is black or white, it’s disrespectful nonetheless but I definitely get what you are saying.
        I think times are different now though, that was back in the time when black people were seen as filth and slaves and whatnot. People were just ignorant and oblivious because of what the government told them and it was absolutely disgusting but most of them just didn’t know any better.
        But fortunately, times have somewhat changed. Still not enough since there is still way too much inequality and racism but it is getting better. I mean, I think we can all agree on Kanye being the rap god instead of Eminem. Eminem is good as well though but Kanye’s last album was pure gold!

        • Godney

          Yesss!, but i do think if Justin starts with more R&B/Sould/Rap its only to take away her “good boy” (if he has any left of that) or his younger fans to prove he is not the same little kid anymore, the same with miley, she took Hip-Hop and twerk as her way to take her good girl image away. And to me that its using black culture. And i think thats how some parts of the black comunity are mad at it.
          That black artist (as kanye) are not that much praise as white people who try to do the same as them (ex, Eminem)

          • laura

            Well, black people always look pretty bad ass but in a good way. So I guess that’s why they are doing it, just so they have a bit of that bad ass vibe as well. But yes, that is definitely using black culture and is completely wrong.
            Kanye is incredibly underrated but maybe that’s because he is a bit too confident at times? idk Kanye is more popular than Eminem here though but I don’t know about America.

          • Marina And My Diamonds

            They’re both equally popular here. I have to admit Eminem remains my fave.

          • laura

            Shame on you! :p here it is definitely Kanye. The guys that seem to prefer Eminem, mostly enjoy listening to Bieber as well for some odd reason.

          • Marina And My Diamonds

            LOL that’s weird, Eminem and Bieber are literally sitting on two different planets, billions of miles away when it comes to music. But the music taste of people can be strange. Odd indeed.

          • laura

            I don’t know why either but it’s something what I’ve noticed here in Belgium. I mean, I listen to classical music and rap but even that makes more sense.

          • lol

            guys wont even say biebers name in america, lol. actually pretty much no one except for his hardcore fans listen to his music.

          • lol

            not saying this based on personal opinion either, people really just dont like him or listen to him.

          • laura

            Oh some here do but most are ashamed. Most of them also seem to enjoy Glee, I’ve noticed. All very very odd.

          • Marina And My Diamonds

            I’m laughing. Nothing wrong with that but it’s funny.

          • laura

            I find it hilarious. Men are such weird creatures, I don’t think we’ll ever understand them.

          • Marina And My Diamonds

            Ha! And they think we’re the weird ones.

          • lol

            lol a lot of people seem to enjoy glee. i like a lot of their covers tbh. i think they would rather admit to glee rather than miley or justin. its funny because a lot of people on twitter claim to like miley but in real life people won’t admit to it. everyone in my school thinks shes gross. i find that odd too.

          • laura

            In Belgium they don’t since the show keeps getting cancelled here haha ooh here people aren’t ashamed for liking Miley but that’s just because Belgian people aren’t exactly conservative or something. Here most people are ashamed for liking Selena. It’s funny how it is different in every country.

          • lol

            people dont even consider selena a singerl. miley is obviously a lot more popular but everybody thinks shes just crazy and weird. which is a bit opposite of twitter. it really is funny lol.

          • Zaina777

            What’s wrong with Glee…?*starts looking around nervously*
            Secretly singing Don’t Stop Believing…

          • laura

            There’s nothing wrong with Glee! I just find it funny how guys here in Belgium that are fan of Eminem are mostly also fans of Bieber and Glee. It’s just such an odd combination haha
            You can’t always get what you want was my favourite cover of them :p

          • lol

            kanye is a douche, which is probably why people dont like him so much. i would be able to enjoy his music a lot more if he didnt consider himself a god.

          • Godney

            Eminem is a douche too and nobody says shit.

          • Marina And My Diamonds

            Eminem knows he’s a cocky bitch. He says it in his music.

          • Godney

            So does Kanye…

          • lol

            i dont pay much attention to eminem, how is he a douche? i guess they are both douches then

          • Marina And My Diamonds

            They are.

          • Godney

            He has talked many times as he is better than anyone else, he called himself god rap, he has spoken very badly about gay people, black woman etc etc

          • lol

            he probably thinks hes so much better because people really do treat him like hes a god. not saying thats a good thing or agreeing with it. so many people seem to like him, not sure why. kanye and now him i guess are both assholes.

          • Godney

            Yes, but that doesnt give him right to talk bad about gay comunity and black woman and more…

          • laura

            I didn’t even know he did that :o I have respect for the man because of what he’s been through but his lyrics are so disrespectful to women..

          • lol

            i never said that…i stated that i didnt agree with it…

          • laura

            Oh he is definitely too confident but you have to admit, he’s the greatest.

          • lol

            no i dont think hes the greatest, but i do admit his music is good

          • laura

            Oh well, everyone has their own opinion when it comes to music :)

          • lol

            yes lol. i wouldnt judge anyone for listening to kanye or eminem but i just dont like them myself. nothing is worse than acting like your music taste is superior to someone elses lol

          • laura

            I freaking hate people like that! It’s the same with fashion or movies, everyone has different taste and that’s what makes everything a lot more interesting.

          • Godney

            Here eminem is more popular … its sad.

          • laura

            I had an ex who loved Eminem and I was like I’m sorry but if you don’t realize that Kanye is better, this probably won’t work out. And a few months later he broke up with me because it indeed wasn’t working out. But it also had to do with me mocking him because my abs were more defined than his, woops.

          • Godney

            LMAO!! let me see your abs!!!, i also have abs but not quite as much as i used to lol

          • laura

            My abs are private haha but they are looking damn fine except that I haven’t had enough time to work out lately because I was so busy making stupid papers for uni –‘ I swear, men are so weak. I was just joking around and then he told all his friends he felt embarrassed. Men, smh…

          • Godney

            lmao, my boyfriend doesnt have abs but he loves mines :D.

          • laura

            He hated it omfg you are lucky, trust me! Now he’s always posting pictures of him in the gym and stuff but he still doesn’t have muscles and it is just too funny.

          • Godney

            oh he doesnt mind me having a btter body than him, he says he loves my body in fact. and i wouldnt change a thing about him.

          • laura

            Aww that is too cute! I wish the both of you all the best :)
            Maybe I just need to find a guy who has abs, that’d make it a lot easier for me since I like to brag about mine hha

          • Godney

            Maybe you just need a good guy lol.

          • laura

            I definitely need a good guy but they are hard to find haha but I have plenty of time, just enjoying the single life as much as I can ;)

          • anon

            In all respect, people choose who they want to listen to just because Kanye might not be as popular as Justin even though they basically do the same music doesn’t mean Justin is using ‘black’ culture it means he has embraced it. It’s almost like you notice that no matter where people come from they will always adapt the attitude or culture of a place they’ve been in for a long time. Obviously, Justin isn’t particular with the race he hangs with but he tends to hang out with ‘black people the most and honestly it wouldn’t take a rocket scientist to know that they have influenced his music majorly.

          • Godney

            this is so stupid!, i fear for humanity.

        • Godney

          Oh and im not ok with anyone calling woman names. But lets not forget how rap and hip-hop was born.

    • Marina And My Diamonds

      I get it, I’m black (as you already know) and I listen to a bit of everything.

      I grew up on

      Elton John
      Hall and Oates
      Stevie wonder
      KC and the Sunshine Band

      Michael Jackson

      Al Green

      a-ha

      I can go on and on but you get what I’m saying. If it sounds good to my ears I’m going to listen to it.

      • laura

        I applaud your music taste! I’m going to be honest, I mostly grew up with classical music and Belgian music. I barely ever listened to American artists.. But now I just listen to everything besides jazz since that makes me annoyed as fuck haha

        • Marina And My Diamonds

          You don’t like jazz?! Broken heart over here ;) hahaha I love it!

          • laura

            omg no! It seriously makes me want to kill people and I don’t even know why. My dad has the exact same problem so I guess it just runs in the family :p

          • Marina And My Diamonds
          • laura

            I’m sorry :( I wish I could help it.. Last year we went to Prague with school and we had dinner on a fucking jazz boat, turned out I wasn’t the only one who was having problems not to stab anyone haha it was torture for me! thank god the wine was good.

          • Marina And My Diamonds

            LOL that’s funny.

      • Zaina777

        I didn’t know you were black. I’m black too…:) What’s your background?

        • Marina And My Diamonds

          :) There’s so much. Both my parents are Black American. My great grandmother on my Mom’s side was half Native American and Creole (black and french) – (for real, not how people say it and it’s not true, she really was.)

          My great grandmother on my Father’s side was white and my grandmother was half white. And I don’t know how to insert my English side because I have a difficult time explaining myself when it comes to my bloodline. But that’s the surface of my background. :)
          What’s yours?

          • Zaina777

            I’m Nigerian but I was born in England. I only have Nigerian in my bloodline though. I don’t have a English accent though. I mean how awesome would that be?

          • Marina And My Diamonds

            Really awesome. Do you have an accent at all?

          • Zaina777

            No, some people say that I have a little accent but I don’t think I do though.

  • @jjeezy

    Best post Oceanup has ever reported. Couldn’t be more true.

  • Queen Amanda Bynes

    Has he even listened to Justin’s music ? It’s not hip hop at all.he his pop with hints of r&b . All that matters ,confident, etc is Justin singing .Who cares if he has a rapper featuring,hes been doing that since baby came out.

    this guy needs to STFU

    i thought segregation ended 60 years ago, white and black people can do what ever type of music they want.

  • laura

    Since this article is about Justin, I thought I would share this with http://fxrby.tumblr.com/post/41530976549/moansharry-sheeran-and-dreamed-drogenfrau
    It’s quite hilarious.

  • Tash

    I think hes not phrasing it correctly. But I understand his point. The dude isn’t picking on eminem for example. Eminem is from that community and grew up a certain way. He is entitled to talk. Also it’s the truth. Justin talking about keeping it gangster and trying to fit that rapper stereotype but still crooning watered down usher songs is just so fake and an insult. He’s trying to be what most worked to get away from and are just telling their story now or are way too caught up. Most of the people being picked on here, went the black route to boost their fame and gain credibility. They hook up with black producers and make black friends as if it suddenly makes them an adult entertainer and credible.

  • abigail

    how ignorant is this ‘Lord Jamar’ person? I mean come on, as far back as I possibly can remember, black people always made upbeat songs with a good tempo and beat to match BUT as far as I’m concerned this is the twenty- first century people lean towards music like that now-a-days. In this society it doesn’t matter if your music sounds ‘black’ or ‘white’. And as far as I’m concerned music doesn’t have a race. That Jamar person needs to take a lesson in manners.

  • JoeJonasTroops

    king bieber make the best music and who ever denies it is just jelouse that their idol dosn’t make better music. listen to the song backpack (my favourite song off jeournals) it’s GENOUS!

  • anon

    This is fucking stupid. Wtf is “black music”? You can’t label one genre to one race. Every genre is for everybody. Anyone can do hip-hop, R&B, pop etc.

  • anon

    Since when did we apply race to music? That’s so fucking stupid. This is why racism will never end because everyone always has to claim something to one race.